Beta Testing New Flavors :D

When exactly is Q4 for those of us who don’t speak business-ese? Guess I’ll have to order what I want from ya soon. :wink:

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((Ahem))

Or show up at your door scratching away like the cat trying to get in from the cold, right?

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Either Oct 1 or Jan 1st depends on the business and when they consider a fiscal year date.

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I’m big into the fruity styles, blue razz blow pop so far my all time favorite which i make myself. I’m thinking the blue tootsie roll that I have been eating since i was a kid would be amazing and sweedish fish, the flavor when you eat all of them together lol red green yellow and orange. Thanks guys

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Ok, that really and truly blows. Appreciate the heads up though.

Can’t see how it would make much difference if you’ve got both M.A.P. and M.S.R.P. stipulations in effect via contracts… But my main reason for appreciating going direct is that it’s one way to guarantee that you’re not getting product that’s being diluted.

Sad news.

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Okay… 24 hour steep test for 3% raw extract… here are the stats:

30/70 PG-VG @ 3mcg 100 VG Nicotine (Nicotine River)
Flavors (extracts) tested: Marshmallow, Rice Krispy Treats & Coffee
Hardware: Twisted Messes Squared RDA, Alienwire at 2.5mm ID - 4 wraps per coil - 2 coils used at .17 ohm resistance. Joyetech Cuboid at 55 watts on Voltage Mode - no SS for a Temp Control build.

After 1.5 liters of water and some deep respiratory therapy… 3% is too heavy… holy cow…
Guys, please note, I think (based from the smell and the taste) there is still some alcohol left after 24 hours, I’m going to let this breath overnight before I continue on.

Marshmallow is a kick-in-the-throat white fluffy taste, adds body, adds sweetness… but is not as light as the PG heavyweights of TFA, Flavorah or Flavor West. This is an authentic marshmallow flavor, however - 3% is very heavy on that sickeningly sweet flavor.

This is concentrated… no doubt, you may want to limit to 2% at most as a standalone flavor and maybe .5% as a mixable ingredient… holy moly.

Rice Krispy Treats, this has some similar taste properties as the marshmallow, but there is an aftertaste of something a little more earthier on the exhale, not as sharp as the marshmallow - but this wasn’t what was expected.

Same concentrations as Marshmallow, these extracts are strong!! My throat is a little raw after the second flavor, killed another liter of water before venturing on to…

COFFEE!! Been looking forward to this one… so let’s get to it!

Oh god… I’ve become a mad scientist…

Holy crap… 3% is WAY too high… first inhale was a surprise, but the taste wasn’t bad… for what my mouth will let me remember. The taste of the coffee reminds me of the old fashioned dark roast scent from the old tin can. Which to me, is a bit strange - it tastes the way my memory recalls the smell (at least, to my memory). Dark, robust and definitely the kind of kick with a cup of black coffee…

Probably not a great stand alone flavor, but this has got possibilities with some sweet creams, maybe some caramel, I think the opportunities with this flavor (once I dial in the right percentage) would be a great base for coffee/cappuccino flavors for the DIY enthusiast.

Guys, mind you - this is only after 24 hours steep, these may settle down after some time - not sure, but these 15ml testers I have made will be put to good use once a week, and I will continue to report on these.

For my next batch - the chocolate, cherry and cream cheese will be at the same percentage as the previous 3 flavors above with the same conditions. I’ll mix those up tomorrow and report my findings again.

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Awesome report, and I’m hoping they stay in line with the 0.5-1% area!! That’s more of what I expect if the pricepoint’s to remain at 7.99!

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I’m sorry, I disagree with that statement. Which is ok, we all have different opinions. However, MF extracts are $22 for 15ml, and $39 for 30ml. Flavorah are $5.49-17.49 for 15ml. I feel $7.99 for 30ml extract is very reasonable and competitive compared to the competition.

Thank you very much @dwdh586 for all your time and work in testing and write up. Very useful info!

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That is my belief as well , I don’t get hung up on percentages but I do understand why others do and that is fine.Everyone needs to use what works best for them , there is no right or wrong.I am just glad we have as many choices as we do!
Keep calm and vape on!

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Thank you for your time , I hope to have mine by the weekend.

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@Nicotine_River will these other locations be selling extracts? I know you have no real control of what another company sells, but was wondering if you know where they would be available at…?

Thank you for responding.

You’re absolutely correct, and I stand corrected. For whatever reason, I was thinking that it was 7.99 for 15ml (no idea why). I agree that it’s within reason for 30ml.

Percentages are a personal thing (as you point out) to which I mostly agree. When it comes to those of us who “have to” stay above a certain percentage VG-wise (thanks to PG sensitivities) it quickly becomes evident why flavor strength (percentages) becomes so important. Especially as the number of flavors increase in a single recipe.

As for MF, I’ll never spend $25 for a single bottle of flavoring. It’s hard enough for me to justify theirs when they’re on sale for $15+ because as I mentioned in chat earlier, the first thing I think is “I could have 5 15ml bottles of quality flavorings for ONE of MF’s”. Even though they’re typically used from 0.25-0.75%. Maybe if someone packaged them in 5-7ml for $5 or whatever…anyways.

Nonetheless, I appreciate your addressing the error in my comment. Sorry for not having my facts (thoughts) straight before posting.

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I should have added. When the switch happens over. Most resellers will have the complete lines in stock. For example Amazon will sell everything, plus free shipping, plus prime :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the reviews! Can I make a suggestion though? With this type concentration I would recommend starting lower, like maybe 0.5 or 1%. Two reasons. It’s kind of like when making any recipe, you can always add more if needed but reversing overdose is not as easy. Second is the subconscious effect from hitting it too strong. You don’t want to have your brain locked in on something overly powerful that may negatively influence the experience if later diluted. Just my opinion - take it for what it’s worth. But thanks again!

Thank you Walt for making these flavors available. Once I’ve had an opportunity to test them all I will certainly be a loyal customer for the ones I like. Question - what method is more beneficial to you - for us to buy from RF direct or through a third party? Because if it is better to buy from you that’s what I will continue to do.

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Yeah, in my zeal… I missed the decimal point… what can I say… when it comes to focus, I could use… was that a squirrel? … er, wait. What was I saying again?

All kidding aside, I’m going to half the percentage on the next three flavors and see how that goes.

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Well I’m finally on board the RF Train… These Raw Extracts sounds like they would be good for how I like to mix.

I ordered these this morning…

Shortbread Cookie Extract 1oz
Vanilla Custard Extract 1oz
Rhubarb Extract 1oz
Peanut Butter Extract 1oz
Molasses Extract 1oz
Graham Cracker Extract 1oz
Condensed Milk Extract 1oz
Brown Sugar Extract 1oz

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I hope they work well for you , I am excited to have you as well as @SthrnMixer giving these extracts a try.

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We can compare some notes :slight_smile: I see my order was tranferred to the local post office for delivery so I’ll have them around 10 am tomorrow, mixing by 10:15 :slight_smile:

Cream Soda
Strawberry
Yumberry
Shortbread Cookie
Rice Crispy Treat
Cookies and Cream (nail biting anticipation :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: )
Condensed Milk
Cake Batter
Blood Orange
Blackberry

Looking at your list I should have gotten all the ones you have too as that’s right in my groove! Have fun brudda.

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German flavors make this flavor profile baked apple i believe its called. Try Vaperstek.com. stuff is strong i use it as a nuance in apple fritter mixes

Question for ANYONE who has experience with theRaw Extracts…Will these need to be used with sweeteners, being that they are simply the Raw extracts of the flavors?