This website helped me so much and i felt that i need to contribute somehow (since i can’t be of much help with my mixes yet).
There are two reasons for this post:
(1) to help vapers find basic information about diketones, oils, syrups in flavors of different companies on a single page; it’s easier to find anything and to compare flavors of different manufacturers.
(2) to help make companies become more transparent regarding the use of diketones, oils, sugars, syrups, GMO, aspartame, etc. It is a health question and many customers want to avoid those flavors, so why not give all the info if there’s nothing to hide?
Note: 6 most popular DIY companies are highlighted for easy following.
TFA/TPA – The Flavor Apprentice/The Perfume Apprentice, FLV – Flavorah, FW – Flavor West, CAP – Capella, FA – Flavour Art, INW – Inawera, MB – Molinberry, LB – Liquid Barn, OoO – One on One, LA – LorAnn, DIYFS – DIY Flavor Shack, HG – Hangsen, RF – Real Flavors, JF – Jungle Flavors, WF – Wonder Flavours, GF – German Flavors, DEL – Delosi, MF – Medicine Flower
This list will be updated with any new findings (i ask for your help here; i wish one day this page will have all the info about flavors of premium liquid companies as well). I also hope the bottom listed companies in the table will soon figure out that they need to be more transparent if they want to gain larger vaping community’s support.
TFA/TPA – The Flavor / Perfumer Apprentice
Full disclosure of what’s in their flavorings
Very informative and helpful support regarding this question
No Diacetyl in any of their flavors
They provide range and not exact numbers, such as Acetoin <=1%, which could be either 10ppm or 10,000ppm.
Extremely high levels of diketones in some of their flavors (Butter, Coconut Extra)
Some flavors contain corn syrup
Note: shown are only flavors with the highest levels of A or AP (over 10,000 ppm = 1%). You can find more info about each of their flavors here:
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx?cas=600-14-6 – flavors with AP (40+ flavors)
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx?cas=513-86-0 – flavors with A (60+ flavors)
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx - all flavors
Their DX line contains zero diketones.
MB – Molinberry
Full documentation to each flavor supported with testing reports
All flavors are Diacetyl and Acetyl Propionyl free
The industry’s lowest amounts of Acetoin
No colorants or preservatives and all flavors are GMO free
Note: Very low levels of Acetoin were found in 6 of their flavors only (all other 68 flavorings are completely D-A-AP free).
More info on their website.
FLV – Flavorah
Very low levels of diketons
Super concentrates result in very low amounts of diketones in your mixes (Coconut contains 2,800 ppm of Acetoin, but since you use it at 2% in your mixes, this results in 56 ppm of Acetoin in your vaping liquid = 0.0056%).
They do not add Diacetyl or Acetyl Propionyl to any of their products.
Diacetyl in some flavors is formed naturally during the flavor extraction process (but it still is Diacetyl).
Note: Shown are only flavors with more than 1,000 ppm of Acetoin.
More info about diketons in their flavors: www.flavorah.com/safety/
LB – Liquid Barn
None of their flavors have added Diacetyl.
Good information on their website
High level of AP in one flavor (Vanilla Ice Cream 3.5%)
Note: Shown are only flavors with more than 1000 ppm of A/AP.
Find more detailed info about their other flavors here.
OoO – One on One
A pleasant surprize! Thumbs up for the company!
None of their 450+ flavors have added Diacetyl.
High levels of Acetoin in some flavors (Sweet Cream 6.7%)
Note: Shown are only flavors with more than 10,000 ppm (1%) of A/AP.
Their bestseller Cream (Milky Undertone) contains 2,163 ppm of Acetoin (0.21%), 0 AP
Detailed info about diketones in their flavors can be found here.
DEL – Delosi (Nicotine Labs)
None of their flavors have added Diacetyl or artificial coloring.
Only seven of their flavors contain A/AP (and they say they are in process of removing A/AP from these remaining 7 flavors)
There is an information about A/AP on their NicotineLabs website…
… but there is ZERO information about diketones on the official Delosi website
No testing reports, no info about what their Not Detected (ND) limit was
Find more info at nicotinelabs.com or delosi.com
FW – Flavor West
Bad reputation for lying about diacetyl in their flavors a few years ago
They use sugar syrup and other sugars in many flavors (more info at the bottom of the page)
High levels of Acetoin in some flavors
They don’t use diacetyl anymore (based on independent lab testings)
They don’t hide levels of A/AP in any of their flavors (like CAP / FA)
My opinion: Other flavor companies use questionable ingredients yet do not get near the heat that Flavor West does. Regardless of the past, after FW published their reports and changed their flavors i could say i trust them more than companies, who don’t release any info about their flavors publicly.
Listed are ONLY flavours with more than 10,000 ppm (>1%) of Acetoin.
FA and CAP publish D-A-AP reports ONLY for flavors that have been proven to be diketone free (and hide the amount of diketones in the rest of their flavors). A BIG disappointment about these two companies!
FA – Flavour Arts
Independent research showed no Diacetyl and AP in their VAPING flavors, but…
…no results of Acetoin testing was ever published. We have no idea how much Acetoin is in any of their flavours.
…also, diketone-free is only their vaping line, while their KITCHEN line may contain D/AP (Butter, Cream Whipped, Milk and 30+ other flavors) and there is no info about the amount of Diacetyl & AP for any of these flavors.
Their flavors does not contain sugars, protein, genetic modified ingredients, animal ingredients of any kind, preservatives, sweeteners and colors.
My opinion: There is a myth that FA flavors are free of diketones. That is so not true and so misleading. Some flavors contain D/AP and on top they hide any info about the amounts of Acetoin in all of their flavors. To get an idea what information FA company releases, please check the amount of diketones in FW flavors above… they could also advertise that there is no diketones in their flavors, right? (if they chose to refuse releasing reports about levels of Acetoin in their flavors, like FA).
Link to their vaping line reports.
FA Flavors NOT suitable for vaping are here.
CAP – Capella
Testing results for some of their flavors about D-A-AP…
…but, no results are published about flavors that DO contain diketones (why not publishing tests of ALL flavors which they are selling?)
They say they are not using Diacetyl in ANY of their flavorings
My opinion: As a long time user of their Vanilla Custard V1, i’d really wish to get some info about the amounts of diketones (i would stay their customer, if those are not extremely high, but with no info released, i fear the worst case scenario, which i want to avoid; why do they hide those info?).
Info about their diketone-free flavors
RF - Real Flavors
None of their flavors have added Diacetyl.
Good information about what flavors do contain A/AP on their website
Sadly, they did not provide their reports publicly yet.
LA – LorAnn (Lauren)
No public reports yet, but they say they are not adding any Diacetyl to their flavors
Several flavors contain oils, which are very bad for vaping.
Several flavors contain artificial colorings, which are best to avoid.
Be sure to check this table before using (note: it’s not LorAnn’s official and several flavors are missing here).
DIYFS – DIY Flavor Shack
No reports, but at least they do inform you publicly whether a flavor contains diketones or not, so you can avoid them.
The following companies you should avoid if you care about diketones.
They didn’t release any public report about diketones in their flavors, they either refuse giving any info or they say they will provide any MSDS sheets on a flavor if you email them (which is absolutely not good enough for me; somehow i would rather see them publicly commit themselves with those reports, which they want to send me; also MSDS sheets are often not giving any info about diketones – check flavorah example here www.flavorah.com/safety/; obviously i would rather see their PUBLICLY released reports about D-A-AP levels in their flavors).
INW – Inawera
HG – Hangsen
JF – Jungle Flavors
WF – Wonder Flavours
GF – German Flavors
MF – Medicine Flower (Lotus Flavors)
! ! ! Sugars, Syrups, etc
! ! ! Sucralose (SPLENDA)
Link (thx iVapeDIY)
We have two types of companies:
(1) those who have nothing to hide and who publicly provide all the information to their customers. Their stance may help make vaping even safer in the future and these are beneficial for vaping community in the future.
(2) Those who don’t publicly provide any info about diketones and/or other harmful substances used in their flavors (ignoring their customers; they don’t want you to know what you are vaping).
My opinion: I have no problems with A/AP and some of my the most frequently used flavors contain diketones. Overall i’m more concerned about oils, sugars, syrups, aspartame, artificial flavoring, GMO in my flavorings.
But still i am TOTALLY against non-transparent policy of some companies, who don’t provide detailed MSDS sheets / DAAP reports for their flavorings. Use of diketones is a health question after all and many vapers / their customers want to avoid those flavors. This makes me questioning about what are they hiding. Are they still adding Diacetyl in their flavors, which is no longer being used by most (but not all) flavor manufacturers? Could i trust them and their products?
How we can help make vaping even safer?
For me, reportings about DAAP, oils, sugars, corn syrup, aspartame, GMO are a must and that’s why my ratings will always be 1/5 stars for non-transparent products. I can imagine that when dozens of vapers will do the same, all those companies will be forced to become more transparent due to under-average ratings / lower sells / bad reputation and they will finally stop ignoring their customers.
More importantly, this may make vaping even safer in the future (before Diacetyl fun club attacks this sentence… we all know what garbage was in liquids in the past and how much better it is now; the industry was forced to change; this wouldn’t happen without some transparency and public awareness and we would still be vaping oils, sugars and added Diacetyl, right?). And if it’s even safer and more transparent, then voice of vapers can be heard even more (maybe resulting in less regulations and gaining better public opinion).
Transparency is driving changes, helps finding new and better solutions faster and it is always good for users (not just for vaping, but also for food, chemical and all other industries).
I’m looking forward to any other information about flavors / manufacturers / reports. Also, there’s quite some text and poorly worded information - please inform me about those; together we can make the overall information much more useful. Thx.