Flavors coming out peppery

Nope post withdrew lol

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A peppery taste is usually the nicotine what brand, nic carrier and level of nic do you have in this mix you speak of.

Add a half a percent of TPA sour to it that always seems to make a flavor pop, Iā€™ve honestly never used it to get around a peppery taste, but it might be worth a try.

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Yeah I read the first post and replied immediately now Iā€™m reading the thread and going Oh well seems to be the story of my life a day lateā€¦

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I havenā€™t thought of Sour,but that might work! I will put it in my next order - thank you so much! :slight_smile:

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I use a tiny bit of it in almost all of my fruit vapes, I guess I only have two or three non fruit vapes when I think about it.

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few weeks after this thread, and iā€™m getting a lot of peppery taste myself. so though to share back findings and how i fix them.

  • TPA Cheesecake, TPA VBIC, VC and TPA Sweet Cream (DX) all give me peppery taste above certain %'s even after 2 month steeping. Cheesecake > 4%, SC > 3% ā€¦etc
  • i think all my ā€œDXā€ flavors give peppery taste, especially creams - i could tell the difference after using some flavors from CAP, you can go up in ratio and no peppery taste (example, CAP VC v1). maybe i have a DX sensitivity :slight_smile:
    i tried fresh coils, re-wicking, changing the whole setupā€¦etc - stillā€¦ peppery taste. very disappointing when you have a unicorn milk mix that youā€™ve been waiting on for a month to steep and enjoy :slight_smile:

the trick iā€™ve been using is to dilute the steeped mix with around 10% 30/70 mix with the same nic - so for example, if itā€™s a 30ml, i would add 2 or 3ml to dilute, somehow i feel this ā€œbreaksā€ the flavor saturation in my mix - then add 0.5% coconut and sometimes 1% or 2% Dragonfruit. then shake the new mix and vape away. peppery taste goneā€¦

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I know that putting black pepper on cantelope is a common thing, totally changes the flavor! A local winery makes a cantelope wine. When you tast it, they have you taste it as is, then put a little sprinkle of pepper in it. It doesnā€™t taste peppery at all! And the flavor is amazing!

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I am having that issue with TFAā€™s vanilla bean ice cream! Which is a shame because I really liked that flavor!

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Kinda hate to keep this topic going as I noticed another thread got locked that went south on a similar discussion. This does interest me as I really have no clue if I am experiencing the same thing and no clue exactly what is causing it. I equated what I could call a ā€œpepperyā€ taste with throat hit. I do get it with some fruit flavors more than others. Strawberry (ripe) TPA is definitely one that is strong. At the same time, I noticed my tolerance for nicotine was diminishing so I went from mixing at 6% to mixing at 3%. This greatly reduced the ā€œhotā€, ā€œpepperyā€, throat hit sensation. I am wondering where it all shakes out. Nic in conjunction with certain flavors? Nic itself? My makeup? All of the above? Havenā€™t gotten around to mixing any zero nic yet. Probably would be a good test. And maybe that will even change over time. For awhile the 6% nic with even Strawberry (ripe) was hitting the spot. It became intolerable over time.

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Iā€™d hazard a guess that itā€™s a combination of what you said. Some people are ā€œsuper tastersā€ and can taste many more nuances than others. Some people genetically taste things differently than other people (think PTC, broccoli). Some nic is inherently peppery and some nic gets peppery when itā€™s overly oxidized. And I think itā€™s entirely possible that some flavors have a chemical in them that some people can detect and think is peppery.

To me, itā€™s akin to something like Butyric Acid. Not everyone tastes vomit when they use flavors that contain it, but some do and continue to taste that no matter what percentage they use or how long they let it steep. Other times, it may be a matter of someone over-flavoring or not letting it steep long enough. But Iā€™d say if a person can taste it in anything that contains a flavor with BA, then thereā€™s something to that. Same with the pepper note.

I cannot stand whatever it is that FA uses in their banana or Flavorah uses in Honey Bee. @LordVapor sent me some juice to try and even before I knew the recipe, I could tell those flavors were in two of the bottles. There are other times I think itā€™s in my head. Just because I know something contains a certain flavor, I believe I taste it a certain way.

All that to come back around to what I said beforeā€¦nothing is as simple as ā€œitā€™s the flavorā€ or ā€œitā€™s the person.ā€ Itā€™s all mixed up muddle of genetics, a personā€™s sense of taste (and SMELL), flavors, nicotine, age, batches, etc. Too many variables to make a blanket statement that ā€œItā€™s thisā€ for everyone. Itā€™s like trying to find that perfect pair of shoesā€¦you keep trying them on until you find the one that fits.

P.S. I am with you on not knowing if thatā€™s what Iā€™m getting. I always call it a ā€œbiteyā€ taste. Itā€™s not pepper per se but thereā€™s definitely something that I can tell is there. I HAVE detected it using TPA VBIC and also in, oddly, FAā€™s Black Tea.

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That all sounds too logical. Who are you again? What are you doing here with all this logic mumbo jumbo? :laughing:

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Damn good explanation! As interesting as it all is, it comes down to trying things and finding things you like. Iā€™m trying some new nic too so who knows.

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Thinking about it a little more, the other thing that made me think it was the nic was that my first stinky in the morning always tore my throat up. It was like after the first one my throat was anesthetized if that makes any sense. My 6% nic juices do that to me now too but I donā€™t want to have to put up with the initial burning anymore. I donā€™t crave the throat hit.

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Yep and since cigarettes purportedly do contain anesthetics that makes perfect sense. Not a bad thing to drop the nic if itā€™s causing problems, though. You could also try something like smooth or MTS Vape Wizard, but itā€™s gonna flatten out flavors too.

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Iā€™m a little late to this, sorry, but @JoJo summed it up better than Iā€™d could anyway lol. I just want to add to this that I started my mixing with 0 mg nic, so for me that wasnā€™t the culprit at least. TPA Strawberry Ripe yes. TPA VBIC yes. TPA Strawberry Ripe + TPA VBIC = :boom:

I have found ways to work around Ripe though, but not VBIC: I need to keep it under 3 %. I need to use it with other SB, preferably a stronger one, like Shisha or Red Touch. I need to keep the other SB at a higher % than Ripe. It needs to be in a all fruit mix - although I can use it with Marshmallow. Mixed with creams the ā€œpepperā€ (or bite) comes out. I need to vape it low watts, so I only use MTL for those mixes. There, I think that was all lol.

Trying a 0 mg nic mix with Ripe seems like a good idea though; at least youā€™ll know if itā€™s one or the other. :thumbsup:

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Lots of people report peppery taste from the TFA vanilla and ice cream flavors. There has to be a way to narrow down which component is giving people this effect.

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That would be great. Maybe @Pentine is the right man for the job; I think he has a binder or two of useful information :wink:

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This thread is so helpful to me. My suspicions are validated and I am getting a sense of direction for experimenting with the flavors and nic. Really great content to this thread.

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I already saw the post! Gonna see what ingredients they have in common when I get home :slight_smile:

@JoJo
When I found out cigarettes had analgesics in them everything made a lot more sense as to why they went down so easily without giving you a sore throat. Very nasty deception.

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