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#381

Yay. Another convert. There is one more rule. While vaping you must stick your pinky out. Lol. J/k


#382

I already stick something out. Just not my pinky. :grimacing: Unless your definition of pinky is different from mine, in which case maybe that would be my pinky.


#383

Not me ma’am!
If you’re wanting only an accent from lemon MF, I’d say one drop (roughly 0.0 2ml according to some, but I have not verified this.)

Surprising to hear that MF lime is is that weak though. I’ll be watching (like yourself) for more input on that, because I would have expected it to be as strong as lemon. (Obviously not a flavor I have yet)


#384

@NChris Thanks for the reminder on that one.


#385

Thank you @jay210


#386

Ummm, I’m getting a flash of deja vu here. IIRC, it was Black Cherry (MF) I was taking about re. the super long steep, and IIRC we had this this same convo before :laughing:

Anyway, gotta post, because I just had a flash of insight re,the White Cherry (MF), Remember that bad aroma I was on about? The one that took ages to steep out? Well, I’ve just recalled that one of my MF orders was delayed a few days because they were in the process of bottling a fresh batch of one of the flavours, Guess which one? Yep, White Cherry!

So, now I’m thinking that one probably needs a little time to steep in the MF bottle; which , normally it would get before the customer ever receives it. I just had the bad luck to get an ulta-fresh bottle. Indeed, on checking my White Cherry bottle now, i find that the bad aroma has thankfully vanished.

Damn! I shall have to do my SF tests all over again, shan’t I?


#387

@jay210 I won’t fight you on that one !!!


#388

May I ask what % you use for the Mandarin (MF)? I’m having great difficulty nailing this one down! but then, I’ve been assumming it needs a long steep…and then a bit longer…and a bit more. :rofl: I seem to have missed your post about it!

You have no idea just how many SF tests I have lined up ATM.:laughing: Some of 'em will just have to wait in line for some considerable time.


#389

Roger that @jay210. It’s because of the higher price (not really when you factor in the much lower usage rates), and much longer steep times, that I’m trying to soak in ALL I CAN from this thread. As time and money are in short supply around my house currently, so I’m ALL about the free education here.


#390

I ran out of my little Orange sampler today. Visitation is at 9pm. Then off to the cart to order its’ daddy.


Medicine Flower Recommendations
#391

The one month steep is UP !!! Let the madness begin !!!

All tested @ 1% and 1 month steep unless otherwise noted. All critical testing done on a Steam Crave v.1 RDTA, 7 wrap kanthal single wire coils with KGD Cotton. 70V/30P @ 3mg NIC, tested at 55 watts on a Para 250C. Fresh cotton, and dry burned coils before testing on every flavor. DON’T let the higher price fool you, you will use FAR less than you think, as these are much stronger than most, if not all other flavorings.

Big thanks out to @Pro_Vapes, @Sprkslfly, @jay210, @NChris, and @Chrispdx for helping to bring Medicine Flower more into the mainstream.

Honeydew Melon (MF) 1% (8-19-18) – First flavor test as a SF for my MF stash, and had a hard time waiting 1 month to get started. This one I knew was going to launch a flavor bazooka at me when I was mixing it. 1 month later, I was right. BOOM. In your face, perfectly balanced Honeydew Melon, with just the right amount of the body, and rind. Tastes incredibly fresh, and ripe, at the same time (is that even possible ?). Just the right amount of sweetness, and in no way candied or overly sweet. It was very strong and good @ 1%, and in no way off putting, with no off notes, perfume, or artificial. I did get a slight bit of TH from it, which was a non issue, perhaps mixed too high ?? It’s strong enough where I wondered if dropping it to 0.5-0.6% would improve it, or lessen it. May do some lower testing. As is, it is simply the freshest, most realistic Honeydew Melon I have ever tried. Inhale, exhale, room note all deliciously the same. If you are in need for a very realistic Honeydew Melon that will wow, this one will do it for you. Unquestionably 10/10.

Morello Cherry (MF) 1% (8-20-18) – Number 2 on the list had me somewhat apprehensive due to some bad “cherry” flavorings before. With the Morello being part of the dark or sour cherry group was expecting maybe a sour kick, but that was not the case. FIRST things first, this was a GOOD cherry. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. NO offensive notes, chemical, medicinal, or perfumey notes were to be found with this one, and THAT, is a BIG deal. To add to that, NO cough syrup !!! Ok, moving on, this one did not have the kick that the Honeydew Melon had, but that was ok. Just sweet enough, didn’t appear to have many sour characteristics to it, and it perfectly conveyed the darker cherry flavor, with just a pinch of skin. Because this was following the Honeydew Melon, I can’t help but compare the strengths. This was more laid back at 1%, and it felt as if it could maybe use a little more kick, maybe in the high end to help it pop. Perhaps being an acidic fruit, maybe a little Stevia here would work the magic. Will have to consult with @ozo. Very even tempered, dark cherry body with some sweetness, and a little ping on the top end, but could use a little more ping, IMO. Overall, this was quite good, and the fact that it had NO chemical or cough syrup notes, was impressive to me. Might benefit from a smidge of Stevia to make it pop a little bit more, but as is, nicely sitting at about 7.5/10.

Fig (MF) 1% (8-21-18) – Fig baby FIG !!! There was NO other way to start this flavor review, than that. I have the luxury of having a fig tree in the yard, so I’m very used to the taste of fresh figs. Have never vaped it before now, but I think this one is going to change that. Realizing these are natural flavors, the fact that this IS a spot on Fig flavor should be no surprise, but the fact that it is so good, actually is. It perfectly captures and conveys the fig body, and almost the seeds too. Tastes like a perfectly ripe fig fresh off the tree. I almost ran out to the fig tree to compare, but I couldn’t put the tank down. For comparison it was seemingly quite a bit more present than the Morello Cherry, but fell slightly behind the Honeydew Melon in strength. The sweetness, body, flavor, and overall blending was perfect, and the dark, almost malty-ish notes were perfectly presented in this gem. This one was priced higher on MF’s site @ $41.00 / 15ml as opposed to the more common @ $22.00 / 15ml, but after tasting this, it is worth every bit of that. I may have to buy the BIG bottle of this one. If you are looking for Fig, this is where you find it, and in spades. No faults whatsoever with this one, in any way. Strength, sweetness, profile, with nothing artificial, you cannot go wrong with this one. Think you don’t like Fig, you better try this one first. No choice but 10/10 on this one.

Watermelon (MF) 1% (8-24-18) – My current go to for WM is LA colorless. This one might just change that. Firstly this is a very delicious, juicy watermelon, and at 1% tasted very full, just sweet enough, and really embodied the best parts of a watermelon. You could really taste just enough of the red and white parts, and maybe a hint of the rind to top it off. As expected (with all naturally extracted flavors) it was not heavy handed, and tasted, well, very natural. In comparison to the LA colorless version, this one just tasted more clean, natural, and no candyness whatsoever. This may influence your use of it depending if you are going for a candied mix as opposed to a accurate watermelon. Strength was very good @ 1%, clean, full, and just plain damned good. I can’t find faults with this one, and this seems to be a growing trend with my MF tests so far. For a very accurate, clean, natural, and full tasting watermelon you cannot go wrong with this one. Strength wise in comparison to the previous MF flavors @ 1%, this one was still stronger than the morello cherry, but behind the Fig and Honeydew Melon. Another winner with no complaints @ 10/10.

Plum (MF) 1% (8-27-18) – With the Medicine Flower Fig blowing me away, was pondering if the Plum would hit me as hard. First off, this Plum is GOOD. Just absolutely captured the aspect of the fruit, and you can just taste the darkish red body while you’re vaping it. Compared TO the Fig, this one is much more laid back, almost at the level I had with the Morello Cherry. Doesn’t make it bad, but it didn’t have that brick to the face that the Fig did. Medicine Flower really seems to get the fruits right, and with just the right amount of sweetness without being overbearing and this is no exception. With it being more laid back @ 1% the other thing that seemed to be missing somewhat was the twang or bight of the skin. I actually HAD a few Plums from the store and vaped and ate to compare. The skin has somewhat of a sharpness to it, that I didn’t get from the flavor. Again, didn’t really take away from it, but in addition to the more laid back-ed-ness of this one, it seemed to detract somewhat from the overall experience. Very natural tasting, full, ripe, and juicy. Just a great overall flavor. Unsure if upp’ing the % would bring it into a fuller light or not. As is, having NO off-putting notes, and somewhat laid back, would rate it nicely at a 8/10.

Wild Raspberry (MF) 1% (8-28-18) – Bing, bang, BOOM !!! Review over, I think you get the idea. I had QUITE a hard time, trying to find faults with this beauty. Vaped 3 tank fulls trying to find any faults, and couldn’t. Wow, I’m glad I got the Wild one as it was great. Just about every other raspberry I’ve tried, I’ve had issues with in some way or another, but not this one. Massively delicious, darker raspberry, full, rich, and just the right touch of bright on the finish. Could you taste the seeds even ?? Almost, just almost. Sweetness was perfectly balanced in this one, some hints of sour and brightness, but the smooth and darker deliciousness just washes over you when you vape it. What’s it like ?? Hmmmm, I did get some similarities to Inawera’s Raspberry, but without any of the heavy handed sharpness that it can present. Similar, but this one is far superior. I’m wondering if adding a smidge OF the INW might add a little punch to this one or not. Honestly, after 3 tank fulls, I’m not sure I would dare to try as it is just too damned good, solo. Not candied in any way, very full and impactful at this percentage, and too good to put down. The first thing that I thought, literally on the first test, on the first tank was, “I’ve got to throw this in some custard” !!! Very fresh and natural tasting, with just the right amount of darkness (wild perhaps), and very hard to put down. 10/10 without question.

Strawberry (MF) 1% (9-8-18) – I am a lover of strawberries, and having tested more than a few MF’s was waiting to see about this one. First off, it is probably the weakest MF flavor I have tested yet. Because of that, it was quite a bit more elusive in identifying it’s characteristics. Smelled very good, and fresh in the bottle, but vaping it at this percentage, proved to be less satisfying, and it performed almost as if a sweetish fruit. I could tell what the underlying flavor was but it was very laid back at this strength. I have read it is one of the weaker flavors, and my testing seemed to verify that. From the notes I was able to obtain, it continued with the freshness that I’ve grown to expect from MF, and very natural tasting at that. Without increasing the strength, further indepth notes are impossible for me, will re-test this at twice this strength @ 2% to see what is revealed then. At 1% I am unable to go above 6/10 for this one. Stay tuned for a 2% re-test coming up, for an update.

Cucumber (MF) 1% (9-8-18) – Whew, this one was potent, true to name, and clean and refreshing !!! No sense holding back on this natural tasting powerhouse. Was strong @ 1%, and could be reduced, but even at this strength, a clean, refreshing cucumber is front and center. Sweetness was lower in the spectrum, but it worked perfectly with this flavor. MF was able to accurately capture the inner juicy body (minus the seeds), and had just a smidge of the dark outer skin, enough to make it really realistic. Nothing off putting or perfumey in this flavor, and despite 1% appearing somewhat strong the initial impact was FRESH. Having SF tested this now, I see exactly why @Pro_Vapes paired this up with the Honeydew as this one is a strong, juicy contender, and paired they are incredible. When comparing this to a few of the other cucu’s I’ve tried, this one (expected as MF extracts are from the actual food itself) was far more natural, and clean tasting, almost what you would expect, from the actual vegetable. If you hate cucumbers, then you will hate this flavor !!! 10/10.

Butterscotch (MF) 0.75% (9-23-18) – I have mixed with this a bit, but never tested it as a single flavor. My first reaction was this is a very clean butterscotch. Very natural tasting, nicely sweet with some of the subtle nuances of BS that many others miss. It was somewhat light @,75%, but still surprisingly full. Not sure how they got it this good with no dik’s, but it’s entirely possible some of the richness might have suffered because of this. Very clear, which is again, indicative of MF in general. My personal preference is for a slightly heavier, buttery-er BS, but surely one could easily tweak this clean BS into a richer one with ease. No complaints beyond the strength and richness, clean, accurate, and quite full even at less than 1%. 7.5/10 on this one for me.

One GREAT recipe that showcases what’s possible with this is from @Sprkslfly.

Dark Chocolate (MF) 0.5% (09-24-18) – I knew this one was going to be one of the Heavy Hitters from Medicine Flower, but held off on testing it, until now. Having mixed quite a bit of this up, was interested to see exactly HOW good it was, solo. Chocolate seems to be one of the hardest flavors to get right, but somehow (through their extraction process) MF has managed to absolutely capture the entire essence of a Dark Chocolate with this one, AND, it’s completely clear. Clear you say, sure, you have TPA DCC, and it’s pretty clear, but it can’t touch this one. I think it’s far to say when comparing the many chocolates I have, this one and TPA DCC are similar, but after that, they are not in the same league. This one is a delightfully (yes I said that) Dark Chocolate, with NO off putting notes. No need to tweak, add to it, push or pull it, right out of the bottle delicious, full, sweet enough, creamy, and dark, RIGHT out of the bottle (after steeping) and even @ 0.5%. Wow, and more wow, doesn’t even come close. It is dense enough to be very full at this strength, with no overowering notes, nothing artificial, and does appear to be a fairly complex blend that most others cannot compete with. Dark almost implies it will be, well, dark, but it’s almost assumed it would be bitter, or maybe dry, but NOT with this one. Somehow they’ve come up with a just about perfect blend of darker chocolates, just the right amount of sweetness, but with plenty of “mid-body” that carries it through to a much fuller chocolate than just a “dark” chocolate. I’ve heard @Pro_Vapes rant and rave about tossing all of his chocolates after trying this one, and now I see why. If you are in the mood for a full, creamy, dark and full bodied chocolate, you cannot go wrong with this one. At some level, 10/10 doesn’t seem to come close, but it will have to do. On a side note, I cannot NOT post a shameless link to something Pro_Vapes came up with, that pulls this into a Milk Chocolate, as it is TOO good not to…


#392

We got another believer. Lol.


#393

Don’t those MF bottles look pretty?
Very nicely presented! :star_struck:

It just so happens , I just mixed some Honeydew @ 0.6% , on the advice of @NChris. It already smells like a winner! I’ll prolly taste it prematurely cos I mixed a whole 30ml . :yum:
What’s TH? (Sorry, i am really crap with acronyms) Chris said he got a bit of rind taste @1%. Is that the same thing?
I’ve also mixed some Elderberry(MF) @ 0.5 % and 1% . That should be interesting! Nobody else seems to have that one. Too English, perhaps?


#394

Thanks @jay210. TH = Throat Hit. I’ve got some others that I’ve had for a while but moved them over to PET bottles. Am keeping them in the fridge for now because they’re natural flavors.


#395

The shot that didn’t make the cut.


#396


#397

You dog! How did you get a fig sample?


#398

These bottles are different where did they come from?


#399

I almost bought it, but wasn’t sure, so I ordered like 5 or so, and asked for a Plum and Fig sample, which MF was kind enough to provide.

@xxanalogxx I had some leaking issues with a couple of the MF dropper bottles when shaking them up. Tight, tight, tightened the caps, but I still kept flinging dropplets around when shaking, and these are a little pricey, so I had to stop that. My early MF’s are in 15ml PET bottles from

I can say that any / all leaking has stopped. Another thing that concerned me ABOUT the leaking was if I could shake the flavor out, I was pretty sure air was getting in (assumption). I’m quite sure nothing is better than glass, but I decided to change up to PET. I haven’t changed up my recent order yet.

The 15ml are (duh) perfect for 15ml MF flavors IF you are moving away from the stock glass. Unlike the stock MF droppers, these have very precise tips and I can dispense with more accuracy.


#400

Morello Cherry (MF) 1% (8-20-18) – Number 2 on the list had me somewhat apprehensive due to some bad “cherry” flavorings before. With the Morello being part of the dark or sour cherry group was expecting maybe a sour kick, but that was not the case. FIRST things first, this was a GOOD cherry. No if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. NO offensive notes, chemical, medicinal, or perfumey notes were to be found with this one, and THAT, is a BIG deal. To add to that, NO cough syrup !!! Ok, moving on, this one did not have the kick that the Honeydew Melon had, but that was ok. Just sweet enough, didn’t appear to have many sour characteristics to it, and it perfectly conveyed the darker cherry flavor, with just a pinch of skin. Because this was following the Honeydew Melon, I can’t help but compare the strengths. This was more laid back at 1%, and it felt as if it could maybe use a little more kick, maybe in the high end to help it pop. Perhaps being an acidic fruit, maybe a little Stevia here would work the magic. Will have to consult with @ozo. Very even tempered, dark cherry body with some sweetness, and a little ping on the top end, but could use a little more ping, IMO. Overall, this was quite good, and the fact that it had NO chemical or cough syrup notes, was impressive to me. Might benefit from a smidge of Stevia to make it pop a little bit more, but as is, nicely sitting at about 7.5/10.