New database error discussion thread

Thank you! I’ve been trying to add Persimmon Spice (Flavorah) for a long time and now it is there. I still don’t see any “recipes” under it.

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Next time you talk to Lars, will you please let him know that I haven’t gotten any emails lately regarding new ELR flavors? It has happened before and then it got fixed but now I am not getting notifications again. Appreciate whatever can be done. Thank you!!!

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I honestly think you are better off using the feedback form than relying on Kens poor memory :rofl:

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I haven’t been receiving any emails from here either but at the moment it’s the least of my worries with all of this sh#t happening. I just hope that the damage can be reversed somehow because as it is this has bought ELR down on its knees.

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Are you thinking r@nsomw@re? What do you know?

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@KC111 this has happened before, and I proved/tested it, by contacting a few of the mixers that follow me, after posting a TEST recipe.

I don’t have access to the scripts, to be able to diagnose, or troubleshot them. :frowning:

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Thank you Mafia Man!

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@Lucas_James_Holden, @KC111, @big_vape, I just posted a TEST RECIPE, to see if any of you (who follow me) got the alert.

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I just left you a comment on your page before I read that I was supposed to let you know on this thread, LOL. No alert.

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Didn’t get an alert from anyone In a while. Now I’m finding that “your missing flavors” is not working properly. It’s telling me I’m missing flavors in recipes when they are in my stach.

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Uhh Ohhh, that sounds serious.

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Beginning to think ELR has more problems than the merging of flavors. This is starting to turn into a three ring circus.

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I’m starting to wonder if all of these new problems are being caused BY the Merge.

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I did NOT get an alert because I don’t follow you :frowning_face:, but I do follow Rocky and did NOT get an alert for his latest fantastic ’ Demo Recipe (Adapt)'. I have no idea when alerts stopped.

Totally off topic, but go look at any recipe with a ‘Cap’ flavor. Your stash shows xxx(Cap), on recipe entry it shows xxx(Cap), but your saved recipe’s now show (CAP)

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I backup my stash and recipes monthly just in case. This has proven very handy in mitigating some of the flavor issues. I was able to compare my current stash to previous backups and it helped sort things out quickly.

I wonder if there is a database backup of ELR recipes and stashes prior to the merge in full that could be setup to sort out some of the issues. Just a thought.

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Well 12 days ago we were TOLD this.

And 9 days ago were TOLD this

Tomorrow still has not come. Those 2 fine gents might know your answer or the grand poobah himself @daath but all 3 have been running silent on the state we’re in.

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Regardless of the mix up I have to applaud the attempt to straighten out the mess we mixers helped create. I do believe given time it will get sorted out but it will probably take months if not years. I try to keep in mind these people have lives outside of elr.

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People Have complained for years about the Recipe Side …When TZ started sending a warning on recipe people got mad and went on the attack . That didnt work so he started down rating recipes so maybe those who were the worst offenders would quit entering wrong shit then people complained about that. Now this… My point is that for years people have complained and nothing has worked . They are trying their best for what i think is a lost cause . I am not sure there is a right way to fix this without closing the site and starting over. What i am sure of is that its gonna take time and there are going to be some bumps in the road. If yiu see a problem leave a comment so they know . THIS WILL NOT BE A GROUP PROJECT AND WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED AS A GROUP HOW TO PROCEED.

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Excuse me, but your comment come across as blaming people for using the system wrong, rather than accepting that the system should have been improved. I presented a useful solution to this 4 years back, because you cannot really blame users for fucking up data, that should be a backend/validation solution. Putting on a flavor name police officer wasnt the right solution IMO specially when it started out with what many experienced as bad attitude.

Once again, the solution was fairly simple and if it was implemented 4 years ago it would have saved so many moderation hours, plus this mess that is faced now could have been avoided. Simply, give flavors a column called “validated” or so, and only show the validated flavors in the autocomplete. This way, people would still be able to use custom flavors, but they would be hidden. Heck, that way it would even be possible to make filtering, so only recipes with validated flavors would be listed… or make it so only recipes with validated flavors can be marked as public. I bet, validating flavors will be a lot less work than constantly try to fix shit… and people who would want public recipes would have to learn to use correct flavors.

I think it is a shame it has come to the point where blame is directed at the users, when the fault is basically how the system is made. We cannot expect that new users will understand how things work… Fix for the system, could probably be done with maximum 4 hours work, and following fix less time on moderating would be needed.

It would suit some to be a bit more humble on both sides of this mess!

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Your Excused…I am not sure where i place blame towards the site or anyone? There is a lot of reading between the lines to come up with that but if thats how you feel i came across thats ok. You and I both know there are many users that use ELR for their test recipes and dont care how they list flavors but knowone can even blame them for the mess. The flavor mess has been a thing since 2015 maybe even sooner.

Im not gonna get into a big debate over this. They are proceeding how they are and hopefully things will end up ok afyer all is said and done.

This thread is for people to point out the mistakes so hopefully they can be fixed while other things are being fixed. Your idea sounds great but i am not computer savvy so have no clue how easy that would be

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