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Remember, when you canāt win an argument, just throw insults. I could say youāre a moron too, but i donāt need to drop to your level. Nice to see people only like insults when the people they agree with are slinging them. The definition of butthurt. Iām sorry we donāt agree. I think Iāll somehow manage to get over it though. I like how fenrir liked it but moaned yesterday because he thought it was a strong of me to suggest a person being rude to me was salty. So intellectually honest of you 
I think that says it all.
Iāll make it simple for you, you win, youāre right, scientists must only be listened to when you like what they say, you win, did i mention you win?
This is absolutely fantastic, absolutely correct, and presented in a way any lay person should be able to understand.
You can skip the skit at the end, unless youāre just a huge H. Jon Benjamin fan tho.
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I spent a few minutes on Google and believe I found the original study publication here:
Electronic Cigarette Smoking Increases Aortic Stiffness and Blood Pressure in Young Smokers
Journal of the American College of Cardiology, Volume 67, Issue 23, Pages 2802-2803
I was not able to find a āfreeā link to the entire article though. If anyone has access to a medical library and would care to post/share; I would be interested.
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Oddly Dr. Farsalinos ran a study a few years ago on aortic stiffness and elasticity:
http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/research/2013/144-electronic-cigarettes-contrary
Which concluded that vaping doesnāt affect aortic stiffness and elasticityā¦
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^^^^^^^^^^^
āThis study adds to currently available evidence which universally supports that electronic cigarettes are significantly less harmful compared to smoking.ā - Great find @daath
From this Document:
http://www.ecigarette-research.com/EUROECHO2013-ecigs.pdf
āResearch on ECs should be intensified since they may be potentially useful in reducing the adverse vascular effects associated with smoking.ā
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Despite all the ābanterā yesterday, which I quite enjoyed to be fair, your message is true, we are and should be open to suggestions that vaping may have long term effects, no one knows and only time will tell for sure, but your delivery was confrontational and that of someone that was against vaping IMO, I trust the evidence SO FAR that suggests that vaping is way safer than smoking and I have yet to read anything that would make me think otherwise, you donāt come across as someone who trusts vaping, so donāt do it?
I donāt trust parachutes, so I donāt jump out of planes wearing one.
My only concern with the article you posted is the effect it will have on the peopleās perception on vaping and the potential to make less informed people go back to smoking and we all know how that ends, for that reason you shouldnāt pedal that sh&t, because thatās what it is. Sh&t. And dangerous sh&t at that.
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Thatās bloody well it, Iām off to Brussels to lobby for the CPD. The smallest pack of coffee I can buy is 250 grams, I think that is totally irresponsible and should be brought back to no more than 25 grams. Also I want a ban on those huge coffee mugs theyāre selling all over the place, half the size of an espresso cup should really be the limit, and I insist that caffeine free coffee should still be labeled as a product derived from caffeine. Are they absolutely out of their minds and what about the kids, with all those different flavours, all the latteās and mocha shit and did you know that you can even get coffee with ice-cream in it? 
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Breaking News Everyone !! Nicotine is a stimulant.
Saying that inhaling nicotine, can momentarily increase blood pressure, and stiffen arteries, is like saying pouring water can make things wet. It is simply cause and effect. Next, letās study the effects of proving the obvious on the gullible massesā¦
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Honestly, thatās one set of data that just the thought of makes me cringe. Thereās already far too many viable examples IMO. Iād almost hate to know what the real numbers wereā¦assuming we could get real numbers in this day and age. /sigh
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In a world where studies are reported in a more accurate and scientific manner, if should have been reported like this:
"In a controlled study with a large representative sample size, scientists found a statistical significance between aortic swelling and vaporized inhaled Nicotine at concentrations of 6mg/ml, with an equivalent effect size among cigarette smokers who smoke 10 full strength cigarettes per day. "
ā¦ And even then, it wonāt be newsā¦ because nicotine doesnāt become less potent when it is vaporized.
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FWIW? I trust parachutes FAR more than I trust āModern journalism!ā =)
And yes, if I had the money, Iād damn sure go skydiving!! (Itās another of the things on my bucket list!) After being up in a bi-plane -another thing I think anyone with the opportunity should do, the amazing history really comes to life, and helps put things in perspective! 
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dudeā¦I was just making a point ā¦tutā¦
ā¦lol
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Point Schmoint. I was just sharing that Iād loooooooove to go skydiving! 
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I almost didā¦onceā¦years ago, for charity, but I had constructive spinal surgery so I wasnāt allowed, if I land hard Iād pretty much just concertina into the floor ā¦and that doesnāt sound like fun?, I canāt say Iām sorry it didnāt happenā¦
Yikes! Completely understandable. Hope things are better these days.
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oh yeah yeah it was 4 years ago, Iām 80% now, more than happy with that 
Iām like basically Wolverine now
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That looks savage, what happened?
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popped a disc, had to have it cut out and a prosthetic one put in, Iām a lighting tech, it involves carrying a lot of really heavy rigging/truss round a muddy uneven field on occasion lol, āglass backsā are rife in my industry
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I know people with popped / crumbling discs and they have so much pain 