Should we stock up before 8/8

The biggest issue is not the supply but the law, if they ban our equipment and enforce it by law then we have a “problem”.

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Mods, tanks, rdas, coils if you don’t make your own, and maybe nicotine. PG, VG, and flavors for the most part aren’t going anywhere. I won’t be surprised if there’s a shortage for a while since people are going to be stocking up, but I would imagine that will even itself out soon enough.

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We have e-cig supply manufacturers in our state now. I see taxes but no banning in our future.

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That’s what I’m afraid of, and I don’t have the money to stock up on anything at all, I have three tanks and an rda, a goblin mini, a TFV4, a billow v2 nano, and a freakshow, hopefully these will be enough, but if I could stock up on anything I would definitely get a few more RTA’s cause I can build my own coils! I have about four really good mods so I think I am okay there because I only use one of them, and then when it dies I will move on to the next. But if I break a tank or the screws strip or anything, I’m screwed…

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I bought 4 boxes of regular coils and 4 boxes of tc coils from fast tech and more battaries from heaven gifts and a new rta tank with coils also. And earlier this week did an order of a gallon each of pg and vg and a 100mg liter of nic from ecigexpress. Wonder if I should buy one or two more for the freezer also. And maybe more coils but both my tanks currently have a rebuidable with them. Only thing I need to look into are mods. And I live in Indiana where they have implemented the law that let only 7 companies control juice so I resorted to making my own. But last I knew when the law came into effect you couldn’t even buy premade juice from websites and have it shipped here. A few guys I know tried ordered and there orders were rejected.

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I would, because like others have said, everything from hardware to pg, vg, and flavorings should all be available somewhere, it’s the nic that I worry about so stocking up on that would be my priority.

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Guess I’m ordering more on friday. Hell may put it on the card tonight. Don’t want it to be out of stock come friday. Wife gonna hate me for spending so much this week. Lol

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you could always check out this thread that has the vapocolypse calculator on it…it will let you know how long your nicotine will last you. According to this, the nic I have will last me for almost 10 years!!!

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it seems we always forget these rules are US-only. most HW makers are Chinese companies, so why would the HW development and release to WW market change (maybe it won’t be available/approved in US stores - or US online stores until they go thru the FDA regulations - but shouldn’t i still be able to order online from the likes of FT and ship to me wherever i am in the world?) - is there change in that?
Also Nic suppliers exist outside the US with good quality product
"food flavors", PG & VG are consumer home products - not specifically associated with e-cigarettes

so while i understand many business (US-based eliquid makers and many others) are impacted, and all vaping community should support them, the consumer’s impact may not be as bad as we may think?

Just a thought?

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I made an app for Windows based on Mikes calculations it’s on this forum somewhere

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I agree , nicotine will probably be the hardest to get. All the new DIYER coming out will definitely affect the market. I’m sure Flavoring will be fine other than a lot of them being sold out more. Like when Bronuts came out and it was impossible to find all the flavors. I think the big reason to stock-up now is cost. The higher the demand the higher the price.

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Nic is the only thing to worry about for quite a while IMO, as DIYers

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Grant @Nicotine_River has said he has no worries getting nicotine to us. His main business is nic and he sells it by the truckload, and we DIYers are a small part of what they do.

@Randy13
The short answer is we don’t know what our governments will do…i.e. Utah and Pennsylvania for example.

The reason(s) to stock up now is because we don’t know what to expect, but the past has proven to be… expect the worst from our elected assholes.
Another reason is because of the sales going on now.

I believe there will be enough supplies/hardware to continue vaping, I also believe the prices will go up, either forced by fees to the mfg’s. or taxes, or both.

For hardware, I suggest keeping it as interchangeable as possible with each other, as opposed to [one of every kind].

Just be a good Boy Scout…Be Prepared.

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I’m not sure if they already or not, but things like this (the link you posted) should definitely be stickied! :wink:

seems like there’s been quite a few "repeat questions/topics lately…

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I have to agree. I haven’t seen it until she posted it

i think that you should prepare yourself for orders taking longer the next couple weeks and things being out of stock because of the rush to beat the deadline , you may see a raise in prices bc supply and demand and they could lol but as far as not being able to get something ever again isnt in the near future , so if you are low on sometjing order sooner than you usually would just so your not waiting , hopefully these companies have prepared , i not doing anything out of the ordinary unless i get notice on some serious price increases but usually a company will give you ample notice

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The initial draft of the regulations I read was pretty clear that straight nic is not considered a “finished product”, and therefore would not be regulated as such. Now we may, in fact see some temporary increases in shipping times due to demand, but I don’t think the FDA will be outlawing sales.

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I think you might have misunderstood the intent behind stocking up on Nicotine. It’s not for fear of it not being available, but for the fact that it’s fully expected to be taxed to hell and back in the future.

Some states have already hopped on this train, and it’s common sense to expect the rest to, as well as the Feds of course. Once you look at the numbers (tax revenue) they’ve lost in the last few years from those that have quit smoking, and factor in that the numbers of ex smokers keep growing as they find vaping works, it then becomes clear that it’s no longer a matter of if they will tax it, but when and how much.

When you see tax hikes of (so far) up to 40%…I think it’s Very wise to have Nicotine very high on the short list of what to “invest” in as a Vaper. That $60 for a liter of nic today from Grant @Nicotine_River, could easily turn into $100-$120 per liter “tomorrow”.

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OK… So I sent an e-mail to Wizard Labs this morning. I asked quite honestly, do I have anything to worry about? This was their response:

Hi Maureenie,

Thank you for your business with Wizard Labs. The last day for all new
products to enter the market is August 8th 2016. After that, all existing
products have two years to comply with current regulations. That period ends
on August 8th, 2018. We do not foresee any changes to the way we sell and
what we sell until at least August 8th, 2018. We are happy to answer any and
all of your questions the best we can. We will work hard every day at
pursuing our passion of providing a high quality line of affordable products
that serve our valued customers’ needs in the best way possible. We really
appreciate your support. Please email back or give us a call at (321)
422-0803 with any questions or concerns.

Love you all, taking a nap :slight_smile:

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That’s good to hear cause I’m not near as stocked as I’d like to be! Needed everything so was buying a little of this & a little of that as I could. But when the cancer hit I made about a dozen converts of people who didn’t even know what vaping was! I started handing out small time gear & liquid. I’m as poor as a church mouse but after what I just went thru, if they were serious, they got an ego & 30 ml with an offer for lessons. So if Kentucky gets flooded with some mediocre juice you all know who to blame. :slight_smile:

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