Continuing the discussion from IPV4 Reading Stainless Steel Coils:
Think twice before you go TC. Make a better choice.
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Itās very interesting for sure.
Crazy thing is the same company makes the both of these mods, so I understand.
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You should get that keyboard checked outā¦
it mis-typed IPV3 Li.
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I donāt see it. I know the IPV3 Li has a revamped interior. Maybe itās more like the IPV4 now.
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I was under the assumption that Asmodus makes Sigs and Pioneer4u makes the IPVsā¦ am I mistaken? If they both are part of larger company then I didnāt know that.
Itās your breathless hyperbole (here and at ECF) that gave me a chuckle. 
Donāt get me wrongā¦ Iām thrilled that you all got your update (would truly have sucked otherwise) but 5 weeks of original buyers butthurt cracks me up considering P4Y just pulled off a masterstroke of product rollout (I hopeā¦ I almost grabbed a 3 Li Wed. May still get one later. Weāll see how well it works).
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I may be overly excited. The ipv4 was taking a backseat until today. But now itās amazing. I love a good vapeā¦ Now itās been turned up a notch. I really was really hoping for big thing from the Sig 75w. It just didnāt pan out for me. This ipv4 rollout was perfect timing.
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Excellent. I really am glad the update is working (for those who get it working and usually have another data cable to use as the included one appears to be crap).
It has a passel of issues, but when it does do what it does do right, it apparently is quite good. Thereās a reason half the haters are fanbois as well. 
Just frustrated with P4yās marketing shenanigans I understand. but from the outside, as a non-owner, I can see the brilliance of stringing along all these buyers with their rapid-fire product releases.
Iāll still probably end up with one (or more - D2 anyone?) within the year.
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Oh I should addā¦
Part of your hyperbole is the āSig 75 killerā. A product canāt kill another if theyāre not in the same marketspace. Single vs. dual batts make these two very different tools.
The upcoming D2 on the other handā¦ that will be direct competition. And weāll all be the better for it.
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After reading back over my post I see your point. Looks like I lost it there. I should have dialed it back a bit. Anything TC and Ti really gets me going. You hear the term āgame changerā, tossed around from time to timeā¦ This is one for me. Thanks for stopping the madness.
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@NewDrip. I just ordered my IPV4 do I have to update it right out of the box?
My understanding is that the new āSā version is a slightly different board/chip, with the new higher power levels and without the 9v charging port/ability (no one cared for it anyway it seems).
If you purchased an older model from stockā¦ it will need the firmware update to hit the higher levels, but will be just what everyone else has been using until the software patch was released two days ago. If soā¦ just update it whenever you feel like.
Either wayā¦ itās a rockinā little beastie.
I donāt even know if the āSā has shipped yet, I wasnāt shopping for that model so I didnāt pay very close attention to release dates.
I canāt blame you and youāre not alone, the thing rocks as I understand it.
But reading over the discussions with a dispassionate eye, the evolution of owners comments is hilarious.
Over the 3 (?) months, it went fromā¦
āThis rocks etcā to
āHeyā¦ my screen is dark; the 9v doesnāt work; the softwareās buggy; etc.ā to
āWhereās the promised update patch?ā to
āHey, they announced an updated model and another TC model (Li). WTF?ā to
āHey P4Yā¦ whereās our patch? This is BS!ā to
āDamn it. P4Y has screwed us for the last time.
Still no patch. Iām so mad I could spit. Iāll never deal with these bastards again!ā to
āHeyā¦ the new softwareās here!.. the new softwareās here!
Moar powerā¦ moar joulesā¦ TITANIUM !!! RAWR !11!!1!
Happy happy joy joyā¦ we love you P4Y!
Whatās next?ā
And P4Y rejoices.
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Oh and my Sig 75 just arrived an hour ago. All 3 batts are half full, so everything is charging.
Then I fall down the TC rabbit hole myself.
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Sorry about the spelling/ misunderstanding on my part.
Sorry, Iāve lost the plotā¦
Which did you order? When does it ship? Are you suffering through waiting for vape mail yet?
Thank you Jim great info. Canāt wait to get it.
NewDripā¦
If this is of any interest to you, hereās a VU post about warranty replacement or free (?) 4S upgrades, thanks to the change in who P4Y had doing the warranty coverageā¦
Interesting to be sure, if it pans out.
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AFAIK, Asmodus doesnāt āmakeā anything, they are purely a marketing and reselling company. Iām pretty sure that Asmodus recently dropped handling warranty support for the IPV4 because of poor support by P4Y. Greenleaf is the parent company that owns both Sigelei and Pioneer4You, but saying they are both made by the same company is like saying that Cadillac and Chevrolet are made by the same company because they are both owned by GM. AFAIK, Sigelei and P4Y act as two independent companies, with different design and manufacturing teams. They may share some parts and facilities, which gains them efficiencies, just like all GM companies may share some parts and resources, but ultimately they are made by different teams.
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Thanks for clearing things up.