I can't jump on the bandwagon here. I tried everything known to mankind over 40 years and the result was the same. Plain ass miserable without smoking, 24/7. Vaping was different. I feel fine. Better every day. But if @Ailith doesn't have the same response to vaping, I get that. It never made a damn bit of sense to live a couple of years longer in pure misery. The only way I will change is if change is better. I feel fortunate and blessed that vaping works for me but the one size fits all concept is not mine. Keep on keepin on my friend. Seek and you shall find. Whatever that is.