Very specific cream used in almost all premium liquids

[Cutlass92]

Thank you!

[Oso1]

Thanks for the notes. I’m new to diy and trying to find all the good info I can. I think this will help me out tremendously.

[muth]

Welcome, Oso, nice to meet you. It’s a lot to take in. I’m fairly new to DIY, myself.
Tip: When you scroll through members recipes click on the tiny “i” just left of the author’s name. That will quickly show you the flavors used in their recipe. Many are just single flavor testers that you may want to skip. There is so much info on this site your head could spin. I nose around and follow mixers that have similar tastes as I. That way I can go straight to what I’m looking for. And don’t forget to bookmark and add favorites so you can easily reference them. This place is HUGE! Best of luck…

[worm1]

nice lil amendment to http://e-liquid-recipes.com/master-mixers-tips-and-tricks thks

[woftam]

Excellent info there thanks.

[Cutlass92]

Could this be the additive your looking for @SessionDrummer?

@muth

4-Methyl Guaiacol- Sold by tpa and is a main ingredient of black fire by fa.

Added to foods to make them taste as if they have been cooked on a grill or over a

campfire. Gives your juice a wood, charcoal, or coal fire note. Just a touch can

make your toasted marshmallow vape really take you back to camping with the folks.

[SessionDrummer]

@Cutlass92

Could this be the additive your looking for @SessionDrummer?

Thanks @Cutlass92, I did try quite a few variations of the S’mores with FA Black Fire, and although adding a smoky flavor to my mix, it pulled the whole thing off profile, even with small amounts. I do appreciate the heads up though.

[Cutlass92]

Just trying to help brotha man!

[SessionDrummer]

Lovin’ the help !!!

[BoDarc]

@muth

Gamma Octalactone- Sold by tpa and sv. This is the stuff they put in fudgesicles and other non-dairy treats to make them taste creamy. At 50ppm, it will make any juice you make extra creamy; you’d swear there’s real cream in it!

WARNINGS: Any more than 50ppm tastes atrocious. Tpa sells it full strength, so you will need to dilute it to 1% in pg before using; then you can measure it to 0.5% of your mix.

This is definitely on target and I’ve never seen this mentioned before …50 parts per million? Sounds like a cost effective way to get some extra creaminess

[fidalgo_vapes]

this sounds very interesting especially for cream lovers

[vape4dayz]

cheers Karebear, thanks for the info, very helpful…good luck on your journey into the abyss…

[BoDarc]

@vape4dayz

…good luck on your journey into the abyss

heh “Abyss” sounds more like there’s Fire and Brimstone at the bottom … We say “Rabbit Hole” because there’s fluffy bunnies and hallucinogenic mushrooms at the bottom

[muth]

Cost effective, lol. I had to google PPM to percentage just to try to understand what that would mean to me. I’m glad you’re good with this. If I ever need to use this stuff can I come to you for help?

[BoDarc]

Brofessor? Looks like you’re the one that just brought that which we seek. Big thanks!

[muth]

Still can’t figure it out but glad I could be of service…

[BoDarc]

and B00M another secret reveals …Vanillin

No sure but this thread just surfaced (bumped) and it’s like reading it for the first time …at least from this threads perspective …a flavor that cannot be easily detected but adds that certain something. Also meets the “profit margin” motive of Commercial Juice making …it’s cheap. Thanks @DarthVapor and @Chewy

@DarthVapor

Have you ever had Space Jam’s Andromeda? They use vanillin in that and the last thing you would ever guess is there is “vanilla” in it.

Just buy a damn bottle already!! lol! You will never understand what it is by this thread, other than seeing it as another vanilla flavor.

As far as what it does, if you have had SJ’s andromeda, that’s a great example. Almost an exotic like exhale…

@Chewy

It actually acts as a sweetener in low %, with a vanilla back note. In fact it is very hard to impossible to pick out in a mix?

[Iv3shf]

@muth

gives smoked meat and fish their

smoky flavor. As you can imagine, it makes anything

Just saw it and it’s been love at first sight, naturally bookmarked it. thank you for sharing!!

[muth]

I’m glad it’s helping. We all really have karebear to thank for writing this all out for us.

[Dan_the_Man]

Brilliant! Thanks for taking the time to write that out. Now, how to apply it.