Very true. I was just relating personal experience
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I’ve thought about getting an rba just for testing, i will have to look more into that! Or a more flavor-friendly tank. I loved my v8, I actually only got the v12 because my v8 threads crossed and it started leaking, and the shop only had v12’s.
Would it be reasonable to deduce that with my more ‘cloud-chasing’ setup, i could just bump up my percentages a bit? Do you think commercial juices just contain a great deal more flavoring? I know they have more sweetener, as some of them are so sweet it’s cloying and gross.
Well it’s about time to bust out the mix kit, I’ll see what i come up with! Thanks for all the help!
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I figured I should follow up, as I am currently vaping a shake n vape that i made! It actually tastes good to me, and i don’t have to remind myself what the flavor is, which is basically a first for me. However, some of you may get a chuckle (or a choke) out of my mix…
So i tried the 8% CAP vanilla custard, it tasted okay. I could definitely taste custard, but not as strong as i hoped. So after a few incremental increases, I am now at 11% CAP vanilla custard and 15% TFA sweetener, and basically 50/50 vg/pg. It tastes awesome in the TFV12. Not harsh, pretty ‘thick’ feeling vapor, full of flavor in the cloud beast. Quite sweet, but not nearly as sweet as any premium stuff I’ve had in the last year.
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Congratulation on your success. Stick with these heavier flavors and use higher ratios as you did, for that setup. As I said, I used to do that too, richer/creamier/darker/bolder flavors were a good alternative.
One thing I want to mention tho, tfa sweetener is a mix of sucralose and ethyl maltol.
Ethyl maltol will mute your juices especially if used too high. If you plan on vaping this mix soonish or within a week or two then that’s fine but after that you won’t taste your custard anymore.
Cap vanilla custard needs a 2 week - 2 month steep actually, so the flavor you tasting right now is going to change and so will the sweetness level. Some people enjoy it right away, others only after steeping.
I’d suggest if you plan on a batch you store/steep long term, try 1-3% sweetener if commercial juice is what you want. Then let it sit a month. Or steep your custard and add sweetener in the last 3 days of steeping. Rather add a additional flavor such as some creams to make it thicker and sweeter. Still have to be careful with that as well tho.
After all I’m happy you finally taste your juice, keep at it and I’m sure you find some other combos that will work for you 
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I think that coming from prepared, store-bought ejuice, you probably are used to a higher % flavour. So, I’ say raise those % in recipes.
Try up to double the average preferred single flavour recommendations and see if that helps.
Like I always say about food bought out in any restaurant (including fast food), the seller will do whatever it takes to keep you coming back (fat, sugar, salt) but not to keep you healthy per se.
I imagine ejuice vendor will use higher % flavours because smokers’ taste buds are hella dulled AND ingredients in ejuice are dirt cheap compared to markup prices. Personally, a major part of quitting smoking was its high cost; I won’t now spend it on ejuice bc that eliminates a reason for quitting.
I also believe those been off cigs for years have sensitive pallets that I don’t have yet. So I get more flavour from more flavour .
The only thing to watch is muting above a very high % – like, I couldn’t taste anything when even putting 25% in and I thought I got ripped off. 
I just had burnt taste buds!
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I’m having the exact same problem - none of my juice has any flavor. Not sure if it’s my device or recipes because the ejuice I’ve bought premade has no flavor even with 2 flavor shots. I FEEL YOUR PAIN!
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I’ve been having vape tongue really bad too. I think I might have to venture into tobacco’s or menthols!
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This is a dumb question but have you changed your coils? Flavor loss is caused by old coils or dirty coils. They won’t last forever, depending on the juice it may last 2-7 days depending on how much you vape and if the juice is a coil gunker
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Unfortunately yes i change em more than i need thinking that will do it but it doesnt. I just changed it today and still nothing.
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It’s crazy! I’m thinking I shot my tounge out with going for such a high percentage of flavoring but I found some flavors I could taste better then others 
with tpa I found vanilla bean ice cream spearmint and watermelon I could taste all of them but strawberry ripe it’s like I can only taste a sweet taste of same with strawberry but nothing like my local shops strawberry and cream or strawberry kiwi .
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I am guessing I am in this category as well! Most recipes I have tried have very little flavor! Really sucks! Spent an afternoon at a local shop and tried every sample of Strawberry vapes they had! My hats off to the owner of the shop because he kept feeding me the next one!! I gave up on strawberry and bought a couple bottles of Derailed!!! Love that stuff!! hahaha
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Good reminder for me! I zone out for hours mixing and wrapping coils, but its SUCH a PITA installing them – for me. I think I avoid it!
But, yeah, it’s the tongue that’s gunked up. I’m trying some tips I’ve read: switching to fruits and long-steeped JF Mint (will try adding citrus too) in between creamy desserts and tobacco, brush teeth when I notice there’s no flavour, add a drop of pre-mixed menthol (has to be seriously diluted).
All work to some degree, but I’m not rigorous about it… Will have to be!
Baking soda on tongue tastes like 
but worked for 2 days. I just changed coil, am gonna gargle with warm vinegar now.
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You might have CTS 
I just found out I do too 
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Oh NOOOO!!!
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Success! I have found a very tasty recipe that I can enjoy and its not a tobacco mix!!
I can’t figure out how to copy the recipe from ELR to the forum so now a new project to work on!
DIY Dinner Lady Lemon tart remix by NERRADELOC. I am getting the flavors of a sweet lemony tart.
I am liking this one!! 
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That’s exactly what I thought when you said you have reduced taste
You can paste the url on its own line into forum elr,
or click the wrench and select copy simple text, then paste that into the forum 
Dinner Lady A Lemon Tart Remix : Check cookies
1.00% Bavarian Cream (TPA)
0.50% Biscuit (INAWERA)
1.50% Custard Pi 3.14 (FA)
0.30% Golden Butter (CAP)
2.00% Graham Cracker (Clear) (TPA)
1.00% Juicy Lemon (CAP)
3.00% Lemon Meringue Pie (FW)
3.00% Lemon Sicily (FA)
1.50% Meringue (FA)
0.75% Sweetener (Sucralose/Maltol) (TPA)
Flavor total: 14.55%
Remember to rate it at: Check cookies
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That only works with flash enabled and up to date.
Thought I point that out, since running into the same issue couple weeks ago. My phone and tablet (android) don’t support flash or at least not with chrome.
On my pc it works fine after I enabled flash, before it wouldn’t work either lol.
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Feeling kinda dumb!
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Sweet! I thought i had read in the beginners guide to use the BBcode to share recipes. IDK, just couldn’t get it to work! I did add the ELR to the list for Flash as well as the forum!!
Thanks for your help all!
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I like the first option!! Thanks so much for the help!!
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