I have a problem tasting SB, perhaps a mix w/o SB, do u taste the lemonade? the one shot u tried, iam sure had alot of sweetner. you never said what ratio pg/vg u are mix at, perhaps leaning to the pg side for more flavor.
As @worm1 mentioned, the PG/VG ratio can affect the end result.
Too high of VG and flavors become weak (VG doesn’t carry flavor well).
It could also be your pallette, as @SignMan was mentioning. Some flavors come through better for some where others barely taste anything at all.
Many variables can also affect flavor, i.e., air flow of the RDA/tank, temp/wattage of mod, wicking materials used, high percentages of flavoring (can cause muting).
Don’t give up.
It’s just a matter of constant learning, with the benefit of learning our own pallette and favorites along the way.
I’m sure you’ll hit upon the “one”.
I see you have a few strawberry flavors. Try layering them for a full strawberry taste (layering in this case is using one main flavor, strawberry, and using various makers, tpa, fa, etc., to make a more “fuller” flavor overall. Start by tasting each individually, so you will know what each has to offer overall.)
Here is a shortcut method I used to use for getting to know a flavor quickly. It works well with the syringe method.
- Measure 10 ml of water (yup, you’re gonna use water for this. DON’T put in your gear.)
- Mix the flavor you’re evaluating @1% (0.1ml) with the water. Stir well.
- Take a sip of the, now, flavored water, don’t swallow. Let it rest on the tongue, ensure it covers all areas of your tongue (different senses of taste, sweet, sour, bitter, salty, are located on different areas of the tongue. *note, sour flavors do not carry over well in vaping, they require a carrier to reach your senses (sucralose))
- If the flavor was weak, increase by 1%, retest. Continue until you’re comfortable with the % and your knowledge of the initial flavor.
Take notes! Always keep notes.
This will only account for the initial flavor, not the “magic” that happens while steeping. Some flavors fade during a steep, others become less harsh and yet others will blossom.
Sorry for the long windedness.
Wishing you the best with your next mix.
Next up?
Fizz Mustards’ Mustard Milk is a 3 week steep minimum recipe…It is definitely not a shake and vape…The TFA VBIC is reported to have a peppery taste to some, but if you read the comments by mixers under that recipe, you will find that the pepper taste will go away after a 3 week steep… That is how I treat that particular recipe and it is an excellent vape…If you wanted to shift gears with that recipe, look for “Turbo Milk” Tribute to http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/274013/Turbo%20Milk%20-%20Mustard%20Milk%20TributeMustard milk…It uses more Strawberry…(and a couple of different ones)…It is a very Strawberry Forward blend, and the VBIC actually acts as a binder for the Strawberry, which brings out the Strawberry, and the VBIC actually takes the back seat on this one…It is an excellent Strawberry vape…It appears that you only give your mixes a couple of days to steep…I have found that this shortchanges my mixes…so I have found that steeping with most mixes is essential…Depending on flavors, I will steep some fruits from 12 days to 2 weeks… Some fruits longer…Creams and dessert vapes 3 to 4 weeks and …Custards for 4 to 6 weeks…This allows my flavors to blossom to their full potential…and I really have rarely gotten decent results with Shake and Vape technique…Good luck in your mixing adventures…
are you new to diy ? or is there another site you use and are getting better results from ? , if your use to sweet commercial juices then you may disappointed in many recipes , typically the commercial juices are heavy with sweetener and most mixers here try to avoid sucralose etc , yes there are SNV but with time things typically get better , i didnt look at the recipes you made but if they dont have sucralose in them try to add some start with 1 pct it may be whats missing for you
sorry i should have read through and seen the recipes you tried before anything , i would have been disappointed as well , even the mustard milk , which at one time was super popular isnt great imo
A pepper taste huh well my friend you need Liquid barn Vanilla ice cream! Not only is it the best imho but you won’t get a pepper flavor from it! as far as your mixes go just keep at it man I had my expectations too high when I started and was sadly disappointed in my first few mixes and every once in awhile I still am when I try to create a new one! Soon you’ll get the hang of it by getting to know your flavors and percentages to use certain ones at and then you’ll be happy I’m sure! Go for some original recipes like say you want cookies or some thing say to your self what would go on a real cookie recipe and try to replicate it! For example you would need a cookie base, some butter, eggs, vanilla and if it was plain or had fruit notes then would add a fruit!
So right away you know you would need cookie by FA or sugar cookie caps, inawera biscuit and so on. Then for butter say caps golden butter or perhaps butter cream caps , FA meringue for egg and there’s a ton of vanillas to choose from! Basically just giving you an idea of how I like to think of recipe building. Also look on your flavor list to check average percentages for flavors and read the notes people posted and it should help! Anyway long post but hope it was helpful!
not always true unfortunately , i get the same note as the tpa at that high of a percentage ( mustard milk ) its bound to happen more , i just tried a recipe with VBIC tpa and i get the pepper note but barely and not always , its weird actually so i just mixed the same recipe with my flaves to see if it might be my VBIC that wasnt mixed as well or something
Thx @fidalgo_vapes I wasn’t aware of that issue with liquid barn but it does make sense being that tfas and Liquid barn are very similar! What percentage would you recommend for pepper tasters to to avoid it or just barely notice it I guess? Or would vanilla bean gelato be a better sub? So far the only flavor that has ever given me issues is FA mandarin it tastes like an old sweaty sock or like an old sponge smells lol
I may have spoke too soon, i’ve just tried strawberry jam again, this time in my baby beast and it seems wayyyyyy better, i hadnt tried my juices in the baby beast because the coils are expensive. but damn, the difference seems to be night and day. The RDA i was using i bought specifically for tasting my eliquid but maybe it just sucks at delivering flavor… peerless RDA.
I have the same problem with my peerless. I have tried so many different builds in it. And I use the cloud beast as well.
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(For those not familiar with the old American saying “Look what crawled out from under the wood-work!”)
I have to test my mixes across an RDA, an RDTA and a tank, just to figure out which is going to give the best flavor from a particular mix.
It can be a pain in the butt, but I have all sorts of customers using different builds, mods, and atomisers and they will definitely let me know when it’s not up to par
I go through the same issue with some of my all time favorites, like the hard to clone “Marrakesh”. It tastes beyond horrid in an RDA (no matter the kind or build) but put it in my kylin or old herakles sense and it becomes the most awesome flavor.
This sounds like a pro tip for sure. Gonna have to try it.
I do the same thing. I’ll even put in the notes if I think it is a tank recipe or rda etc.
Not a lot of people get that, but it’s so true.
Sorry to hear about your problem. Since everyone is different, your buds may not be set up for SnV.
The recipes you posted are well rated. I have no use for SnV, so I can’t make any suggestions.
One recommendation, may make a difference, would be to let all mixes natural age (with an occasional light shake) for at least 4 weeks. The more recipes I make, the more I have in the hopper to test, the more successful I am. It only takes a 2-5% success rate to line up quite a few dynamite recipes.
With this approach, you will start to know which flavors/sometimes brands work for you.
I’ve returned to this thread for an update just so anyone in future that tries diy for the first time and goes through what i did does not give up. I went for a second order of flavors and once received i made a few new recipes, this time more complex ones. I have found a few that i would consider to be awesome vapes and i’m still experimenting with my own recipes too. The best advice i got from this thread was to keep at it, i did and it’s paid off i have a few winners so far. Really looking forward to mixing some more. It’s all about finding what works for you. The one thing i would recommend is not to go looking at the top rated recipes and assuming they’re gonna be great for you, The mustard milk for me was the biggest shock, so many great comments but it turns out i’m a pepper taster (i left it steep for 3 weeks , tested it 5 times and although it was less peppery it was still all i could taste). Keep at it folks , i’m happy i did.
I’m glad to hear it worked out for you in the end
EXACTLY! Newbs, just keep tasting flavors and mix what you like.
No offense at all to the highly rated recipes (which none of mine will ever be :(, I could not give a shit what a recipe is rated. You like what you like when you like it. Mix what you like and ignore ratings, it’s diy, not do it to someone else’s palate. Recipes are just inspiration to me.
And friggin congratulations, you are officially one of us!
And, maybe this is useful too: