DIY Flavor strength vs commercial juices

Frequency is sound? (generically speaking) :wink:
(At least, to an audio technician) :laughing:

Lol, I get your point though! And excellent call. But bats and other living beings can detect said frequencies… Just because we (as humans) have a limited capacity, doesn’t negate the accuracy of the statement IMO! :wink:

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Very much appreciated. I’ve never used my usc for juice making so its really nice to be able to ask someone who has and get a detailed appraisal. I think its beyond question that we’re both ‘look under the hood’ and “look behind the curtain” types. I think you are absolutely right about the shaft or stir head interfering and I am working on using a SS shaft and either delrin or UHMW poly. Just saved me some time.
I’m still going to pursue it on the basis of a small overhead stirrer, airtight, and keep anyone interested updated. The loss of the motor is a good thing, and I’m glad I didn’t post something that would disappoint. But I hate this Chinese stuff. :wink:

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You’re all good and that wasn’t to challenge the accuracy of the statement. Both are speeds of sound. Of course the subatomic particles surrounding the nucleolus have a tendency to travel at the speed of light which may be a factor dependent upon the types of reactions occurring. Inter-frequency modulation may also occur. I simply don’t have enough data to make such determinations. I was wondering if you did.

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No problem! Like I said, it was an excellent observation! :wink:

Unfortunately I don’t!
I’m just a “lowly” electronics tech who’s always had an interest in varying sciences. The closest I come to a “chemical engineer” is DIY. :laughing:
Or, when I was much much younger, creative use of fireworks materials. :wink: :grinning:

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This 2 month “steep” you speak of is this without nicotine? I have done extensive testing on Nic and NoNic mixes and have found that ,more notably in dessert/cream profiles, the nicotine acts as a catalyst for a “milliard” reaction. The No nic mixes hardly change over 2,3-6months while the Nic mixes are dramatically better (smoother more flavorful) after as little as 3-4 weeks…

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Is this the one you had in mind? Only one I can think of that’s been discussed on here

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Yes, without nicotine. It is expensive, so I don’t want to waste it when I test a recipe. I make tests of 10ml without nic. If it is approved, then I remake it bigger with nic :wink:

Well, I don’t have a conclusion ready, but Im testing now some recipes that I am developing that tastes super strong, so I have to say that DIY can give you AAA Premium liquid, no doubts.

But I don’t really know yet why some recipes are strong and other bland when they are all around 15-20% in flavor.

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I’m in the same situation- I have made lots of clone recipes and although they are nice and vapable they do not come close to the real deal in terms of strength of flavour and nice long-lasting aftertaste. If you have good results with the ones you are currently testing do you think you could share the details please? Many thanks

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Yes. I love Don Juan Reserve and it is so damn popular in Spain. Im trying to get some inspiration from it until I get something similar. This one is indeed twice stronger than Don Juan, hehe.

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Simple version without nuts. Still strong as hell :slight_smile: Useful as base for something maybe like lemon cookies with cream. I will try that variation the next time.

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These recipes are tasty even after washing your teeth or while having vapers tongue. I couldn’t believe that :stuck_out_tongue:

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Thanks very much I will give these a try and let you know how I found them. All the best

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Well, I think that all my issues are solved now.

First, from my tests I have to agree with this comment. The recipes I posted there used a pre steeped base I use a lot and it had already the nic on it.

I found that the new recipes I made that used that pre steeped base with nic tasted a lot stronger.

Second, this gadget I made in a few minutes:

In seconds, the liquid is perfectly mixed:

The tool is simply a clip with a shape like this. I managed to make it easy to plug and unplug from the toothbrush without adjusting the wire.

So hereinafter I will shake the liquid with this and steep with nicotine. All the juices that I have made are strong and tasty as I always wanted. In most cases, more powerful in flavor than those we buy for an insane amount of money :wink:

Take care and vape!

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Would that fit in the bottle? Or must use beaker?
The stir thing look to big on this one
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BROV02/ref=asc_df_B000BROV025317770/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B000BROV02&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167142066433&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12453988324451571842&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9006144&hvtargid=pla-307260208540

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It fits in my 15 ml glass bottles . I don’t use any plastic but don’t think a Unicorn would be big enough. Lot’s of people here use the Badger. You might do a search for “badger.”

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Just a note to say you’re not alone in your quest. I DIY decent, vapable liquids but I’ve hit a wall as far as getting the same depth of experince of some of my favored commercial liquids.
I experiment a lot and remain curious about furthering my knowledge on the subject but feel there is a key or two that I need a breakthrough on.

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Sorry. Couldn’t pass this (I blame the ex for even knowing what this means BTW.)

Honey-Badger-Dont-Care

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thats a scary looking animal

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They’re mean little varmints.

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So you have your flavorless base with nic pre mixed?
Do you think mixing/steeping your nic base separately made a difference? Or just that there was nic present at all vs. the no nic juices?
I ask because I usually just add my nic to each bottle, and I am certainly having trouble with weak flavor compared to commercial stuff. In both nic and no nic mixes.

Also I’m going to have to try to build one of those stirrers, the only milk frother I can find in town is $20…

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Less is more is my new golden rule. I have cut my overall % down by 40-50% on average. I just hand shake but steep to me is key. If steeping loses flavor you’re using too much flavor possibly or incompatible flavors. This is by no means etched in stone but just my own conclusions from years of frustrating trial and error. I have learned more from the mixers here than anywhere else. I put the cotton in my mouth and just listen or rather read as much as I can.

yes i found adding nic after steep is a + to flavor no idea why

I took a break from mixing and my current juice was mixed in march - nothing lost flavor - they all improved.

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Using less % took me a long time to realize! But for me, you’re right on. Less is more. In most cases, maybe not all…

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