Another thing to consider when doing the dupe compiling is the notes… I think it came to light a few months ago that when combining like ingredients (dupes) some of the notes may not transfer over, which (again) could/would understandably make some people upset (to loose notes they may have been using). Basically a bag of worms that (again imho) needs to be corrected (all the dupes) but at the same time would be time consuming unless the notes could also be moved for those that did the addition of the ingredients (or are using them) are also moved.
Maybe a disclaimer or sticky topic announced to all members stating that the ingredient list is being compiled to make the site faster and that members that have utilized the ingredient list in the past and have added onto it with truncated or improper ingredients may loose data unless action is taken for THEM to make corrections to the items they have added may loose their notes.
Again… I still see people getting mad even if it caused by their own mistakes or decisions to use an un-conformed structure for items. But I’m just talking out my a$$ of course… it isn’t my call.
I’m with you. I’m sure no matter what, some people would be upset. However, for the sake of sanity and organization, I’m sure things will get better.
Maybe @daath can send out a mass email to let people know that we’re in the process of integrating all of the flavors that are listed under different names and that their notes might be affected. Then they can come and see if they need to move their notes or save them somehow. I know I’ve mentioned before the idea of having flavor categories for the standard companies vs NETs/DIYs, vs obscure flavor companies vs stones, etc. That might help too but I don’t know if it would be really hard for Lars to code that.
My opinion is that any new flavor or company that is added to the database should be added “pending approval” (maybe be displayed as a different color in the recipe). That would be a pain in the ass because someone would have to verify and approve it but it’s the only way that the flavor list will ever be organized and consistent. All flavor companies should be assigned a specific abbreviation and flavors should be entered in a predefined way.
Here is a fine example I got about 6 flavors gifted from another member all 8ml bottles from (Vice Electronic Cigarettes) my best Google attempts didn’t find squat for the company or the flavors. I listed them as (VEC) not knowing any better but searching likely will lead to the same blank wall I found on them. They look like TPA glass bottles and could be a rebottle as the flavors seem to be in the general range of the rest of the flavors I have from assorted companies.
I’ve found several entries for Amoretti flavors and adding one of my own for Sour Cream (Amoretti) Birthday Cake coming up most often it seems.
Sorry if I’ve added to the general confusion in the flavor stacks but it’s not all my fault LOL.
Pending approval isn’t a bad idea. Lumping all the unknowns in the (Other) category would work too and let the users of the weird, unknown and seldom seen keep track in their own notes.
@Ken_O_Where I started on my dupe check journey…ummm yep journey…what I am doing for now is starting with Cappella, going down the list of the flavors that have been inputted correctly and recipe count ex. Sweet Strawberry (CAP) then checking for dupes…then sending my suggestions via the magic button. I believe you will be checking notes as well on the suggested dupes just in case. I am also keeping a separate list of the suggestions I have done apart from the ELR Check My Suggestions list. I will stick to brands,flavors and proper input form for now and hopefully in the future when brands are done go onto the “made up” ones. Hope this helps you guys.
That sad thing is that @JoJo had cleaned up CAP not all that long ago.
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A lot of people who have made dupe suggestions will only search TPA or TFA. While that is great and totally appreciated it is only part. When i search a flavor for dupes i use just the flavoring name, no company.
One of the really crazy things is that despite the years ive been mixing and number of flavorings i have owned there are more, sooooooo fracking many more…
One thing i would love to have is a rebranding list, merge all rebranded flavorings with the main manufacturer.
It’s absolutely mind boggling how many flavors are not just duped but misspelled. Hurts my brain lol. I’ll keep plugging away at it with any free time.
I hear ya, its right there on the bottle… lol
Many thanks, im taking the night off. I dont know how many i went through yesterday but it was enough to overload my remaining brain cell.
the david spade meme at the top… facking hilarious
Good for you! 
…ya don’t wanna wind up in the same room with these dupe checkers! Poor saps…
That was me a few months ago (against the wall on the left).
As a suggestion for those working the dupes, only do a few dozen or so, let the person combining the suggested dupes do their thing, then go about doing a few more dozen. This would help stop people duplication of the dupe checking (i.e. multiple people attempting to dupe check the same things). It may also be good to reaffirm the proper wish for how Real Flavors SC is going to be listed in another thread I had seen suggestions but nothing confirmed. Pear Real Flavor (SC), Pear (SC) Real Flavor, Pear RF (SC), or Pear (SC) RF… just suggestions.
They are listed as Pear (SC) (Real Flavors)
I remember something about the parenthesis being needed for sorting or recognition? Can’t remember but saw it in a thread somewhere.
Dude you are the fuckin man…doing this will make ELR even greater than it is
Whenever I get a brand new flavor, I usually go through what I believe are duplicates and submit that clean up entry for daath. I’ve probably done around 30 so far.
I was thinking just like (cap) we should have a (pvt) then free from for the name.
Perhaps even making ‘vendor type’ a singular database entry and the user must choose that entry, then perhaps a freeform for the flavor name, or try to get a complete listing of flavors for that vendor would help.
New vendors would need approval before adding to the list. In the meantime, they could use (pvt)
That’s the way I do it too, dupe check my own flavors as I add them to the stash.
I tried to do all the Meringue dupes last month, eventually I searched “NGUE” and then reported dupes per vendor.
Still in the last month there are over 100 new recipes misspelling it; various maringue, merengue, merangue and a “lwmon meringue” of unspecified vendor. Not to mention almost 500 new recipes using “FA Meringue” which someone has inexplicably clicked the second option in the dropdown instead of the green coloured one “Meringue - Flavour Art (61534)”
Painful, absolutely painful. And that is just one flavor!
Thank You Ken!!! I appreciate that! If I can help, let me know!
would it be possible to put a “Dupe Report” button on the flavor page itself?