This sounds like an insane job to take on. Without question it needs doing though.
Best of luck with it. 
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You mean safe wordā¦ No idea what the girls use as a safe word since i never been part of the act so to speak 
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Nah you said pfffft haha I figured thatās the let me out sound when all else fails 
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Ooo, we get to play, er-uhā¦ creatively? {brow raise, sneaky smile} Iām gonna need a bigger ālikeā ācommentā quota LOL
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You would probably enjoy this thread 
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ā¦gonna need you to āblessā this:
ā¦gonna be used to āhelp outā those folks that screw up @Ken_O_Where 's work. 
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Thanks for the help, folks. Ive gotten through some of the dupe queue, i had it nearly cleared yesterday tho im sure it wasnt that many compared to the past.
If anyone else cares to help jump on in, the water is acid and it burns so be careful.
Someone bought the Karate Kid boxset today so now im being forced to watch it, kinda makes me wish the water was acidā¦
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I havenāt looked/played at the dupes for months, I didnāt see any of the numbers going down.
Is there a way for flavors to be placed as āprivateā so if a person wants to place a flavor in for their own use it wouldnāt show up on the list? i.e. @Ken_O_Where wants to call Butterfinger (SC) Real Flavors something like (SC) Butterfinger 3%, could he make that as a private flavor so it only shows up for him?
Itās pretty sad that the mods have to basically babysit this thing, but as much as I personally like freedom to do as I wish to do things some type of rules need to be used. I mean one of the first things on the list is something called ā1mg-1ā and if you follow it throughā¦ :
Now Iām not trying to say a person should have to be a forum user to be active in the recipe/flavor side of things, but I do think a person should at least get a learners permit or some practice before driving a car for the first timeā¦ I know itās a bad analogy but then again, maybe they (Oguz4), are following the guidelines and itās just me that isnāt looking at things as they should beā¦ an open arena so people can do as they pleaseā¦ āshrugsā
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There isnt but that is a good idea, from my point of view which is certainly more limited than @daathās. There is a lot of that stuff in the list, having the ability to make it private would be a big help, for users and us.
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You will start seeing a bunch of my dupe suggestions coming over. Only if that helps lol. Donāt want to make more work for anyone but I can lend my ocd skillsā¦yesā¦skills lol.
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Hope you can figure out the Arabic ones (I think they areā¦ or Asian) better than me g
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Oh Lord hahaa so is it just dupes or dupes and made up flavors?
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I mean, if someone is going to clean up the listā¦ then I (imho) would think both areas need to be corrected. Problem is, when those things the person working on the list believes to be āmade upā is actually a thing that a user is actually using as a valid ingredient. It really wouldnāt be good (or nice) just to kill off an ingredient just because it is unknown to the person attempting to correct a possible issue. I mean, I have a local manufacture of ingredients, they actually make ingredients as does CAP or TPA, but I havenāt seen them on the listings. If I started using their brand of ingredients and someone came behind me because it wasnāt known to them and deleted them out, Iād be pissed. I donāt believe itās the intentions of the people dupe checking to remove items just because they donāt know what they areā¦ which makes things both touchy and difficult.
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Totally agree. I can understand stones and bases, new manufacturers etc. Maybe in the future there can be a check box to tick for those when someone inputs.
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Another thing to consider when doing the dupe compiling is the notesā¦ I think it came to light a few months ago that when combining like ingredients (dupes) some of the notes may not transfer over, which (again) could/would understandably make some people upset (to loose notes they may have been using). Basically a bag of worms that (again imho) needs to be corrected (all the dupes) but at the same time would be time consuming unless the notes could also be moved for those that did the addition of the ingredients (or are using them) are also moved.
Maybe a disclaimer or sticky topic announced to all members stating that the ingredient list is being compiled to make the site faster and that members that have utilized the ingredient list in the past and have added onto it with truncated or improper ingredients may loose data unless action is taken for THEM to make corrections to the items they have added may loose their notes.
Againā¦ I still see people getting mad even if it caused by their own mistakes or decisions to use an un-conformed structure for items. But Iām just talking out my a$$ of courseā¦ it isnāt my call.
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Iām with you. Iām sure no matter what, some people would be upset. However, for the sake of sanity and organization, Iām sure things will get better.
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Maybe @daath can send out a mass email to let people know that weāre in the process of integrating all of the flavors that are listed under different names and that their notes might be affected. Then they can come and see if they need to move their notes or save them somehow. I know Iāve mentioned before the idea of having flavor categories for the standard companies vs NETs/DIYs, vs obscure flavor companies vs stones, etc. That might help too but I donāt know if it would be really hard for Lars to code that.
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My opinion is that any new flavor or company that is added to the database should be added āpending approvalā (maybe be displayed as a different color in the recipe). That would be a pain in the ass because someone would have to verify and approve it but itās the only way that the flavor list will ever be organized and consistent. All flavor companies should be assigned a specific abbreviation and flavors should be entered in a predefined way.
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Here is a fine example I got about 6 flavors gifted from another member all 8ml bottles from (Vice Electronic Cigarettes) my best Google attempts didnāt find squat for the company or the flavors. I listed them as (VEC) not knowing any better but searching likely will lead to the same blank wall I found on them. They look like TPA glass bottles and could be a rebottle as the flavors seem to be in the general range of the rest of the flavors I have from assorted companies.
Iāve found several entries for Amoretti flavors and adding one of my own for Sour Cream (Amoretti) Birthday Cake coming up most often it seems.
Sorry if Iāve added to the general confusion in the flavor stacks but itās not all my fault LOL.
Pending approval isnāt a bad idea. Lumping all the unknowns in the (Other) category would work too and let the users of the weird, unknown and seldom seen keep track in their own notes.
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@Ken_O_Where I started on my dupe check journeyā¦ummm yep journeyā¦what I am doing for now is starting with Cappella, going down the list of the flavors that have been inputted correctly and recipe count ex. Sweet Strawberry (CAP) then checking for dupesā¦then sending my suggestions via the magic button. I believe you will be checking notes as well on the suggested dupes just in case. I am also keeping a separate list of the suggestions I have done apart from the ELR Check My Suggestions list. I will stick to brands,flavors and proper input form for now and hopefully in the future when brands are done go onto the āmade upā ones. Hope this helps you guys.
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