Flavor coil?

I looked at that wire recently. Not sure why they call it Fused Clapton when the core is twisted. No big deal on the way they’re made if the coils are good, just a little odd IMO.

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I suck at making complicated ā€˜Art’ too…but if you can make a clapton, try a twin 26 SS twisted then clapton it in something finer like a 32 or 34 Nichrome…I’ve found this to be a real easy coil to make, it’s a nice warm vape and the flavour is awesome :+1:

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i can’t go back to single round wire and i tried. it lacks a certain ā€œflavor hitā€ you get from claptons, especially after you let it sit for 5 - 10 mins in the tank and the wick soaks really well. what i found is, i can get a similar flavor hit with a twisted wire. just simple 2 strands twisted together - which is a lot easier than making a clapton, takes a lot less time, and less gear, since you don’t need the drill, and you can just twist the wires using anything - i use a paper clip and shape it like a large ā€œSā€, hook the wire in one side, and twist away.

but here’s an extra trick for flavor, once you twist the wire, untwist few times in the opposite direction. let the twists ā€œopenā€ a little. this creates holes between the twists, and when you make a coil with that wire, it wicks with juice in-between and adds more flavor to the vape. best do this with SS 316K, so if you like 24 single wire, then try twisting 26 or 27 that way … if you like 26 single, then twist 28. i sometimes use a finer single (say 32) as a 3rd twist in opposite direction to create these opening, gives the clapton effect but a lot easier (search ā€œchain coilā€ to know more about the technique).

cheers

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My goto has been simple spaced 24g Ti coils. What I’ve found what makes a huge difference is the condition of the wire prior to coiling. 90% of the Ti wire I’ve tried has been very dirty and if not cleaned will taste awful. I’ve recently purchased polished wire on Ebay and this stuff is clean and ready to go right off the spool. I’m also enjoying simple Ti claptons made from 24/32 Ti.
For more versatility, you could also use SS wire. I’ve loved both contact and spaced coils from a wide range of gauges. They’re long-lasting and are easy to clean.
Don’t forget the wicks! Bad material will make for a bad coil regardless of the wire you use. Personally, I enjoy the Kendo Gold or rayon. The average organic cotton has a taste to it that I don’t care for. I need to try the hemp and see what that’s all about.

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I like stainless spaced coils. From single wire to 2x24 -32 clapton, they all produce great flavor imo. I’m especially enjoying a couple of Pharaoh RTA’s with single coil claptons. Just worked out that I got the resistance I wanted, great air port coverage and a lot of surface area.

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I loved the flavour I got from the coils included with my IJOY RDTA Box, I had them soaking in vodka to clean them and the wife chucked them out :frowning:

Nothing I have tried has given me as good flavour.

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Those were GREAT coils!

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I know. I even asked IJOY what they were made of but they would/could not tell me.

What i do know it they are flat claptons and not fused as so many reviews say.
I am thinking 0.3x0.8 with 32ga wrap all in Ni80.

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i would recommend Fused Clapton SS316, kanthal second :stuck_out_tongue:
or simple kanthal claptons…

in general if you want a better flavor imho you should target on MORE surface of the coil on the wick, and dual coil builds… this way you go for more vapor, more flavor… that’s all in simplicity

PS: if you don’t want to mess with these wires, i would suggest you try 22 Gauage Simple katnthal A1 wire :slight_smile:

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Stainless Steel Triple Core 32Ɨ3/40, more of a petite Clapton for my wattage range (60) but the flavor is magnifique.

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I am the same way! I have tried to go back to single wire just to save time building coils, but I find that it provides a drier hit than my Claptons. Maybe dry isn’t the right term, hard to explain, like the flavor off the Clapton wire is more moist and dense.

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Bumping an old thread rather than create a new one! Have been playing with various configurations and materials and was wondering why there is not much said about Nichrome 80 in this thread?
I have always used Kanthal in various ways for coils and it is adequate, but recently built some fused claptons with Nichrome 80 and also with ss 316L. Using a wasp Nano with the Ni80 literally blew me away! Was like 5 1/2 0r 6 wraps on 2.5mm dowel that came out to .22 ohms and the flavor was outstanding. Built the same type coil with SS and it came out to .16 ohms and noticed a drop in the flavor. Any ideas why SS didn’t perform as well?

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I use tri core fc in both ss 316l or Ni80. I’m not sure if I could tell the difference in a blind taste test.

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For me, ni80 ramps up faster and taste cleaner than SS. It is also easier to clean or get clean than SS. None of my SS builds seem to hold up as long as ni80.

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My guess is that maybe it was too hot of a build for the rda. For example. In my kfv5 I like using 26g ss316l over 24g. The 24g I think gets too hot due to a slightly low ohm and my style of vape

Now if ni80 vs other wires. It’s just about preference. People will come out of the wood work to say what’s better and so on. Again it’s preference.

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more likely the difference in the heat flux of the 2 coils. if u find it doing well w/ fruit , try a custard and vice versa

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Well my excuse is that I’m very sensitive to specific metals. I should only be vaping kanthal, but I hate the taste im getting from that. I settled for ss and it works surprisingly well for me.

I know we have a bunch of people here with the same issue as mine, maybe the reason other materials are not mentioned as often I would think.

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Ever tried titanium?

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I know what you mean-I could never figure out why I would get an itchy throat with some factory-made coil heads and not others. Turns out, a fair amount of companies use nichrome for their coils and I’m allergic to nickel. I build with kanthal or SS and haven’t had any more problems since.

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I don’t have issues with metals but after trying almost everything, i settled on simple 26ga ss316L coils. For single coil i do an 8 wrap coil that comes to around 0.5ohm, and for dual I do 14 wraps that brings the dual build to 0.5ohm as well

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