Manufacturing Problem

serious question:
do you buy your CAP flavors directly from Capellas?

I love this forum, what a great community this is!

Yes we buy all of our flavors directly though a wholesale account. Could just be a flavoring issue. We have switched everything now though.

We ordered from a new VG, PG, and Nic supplier so we will start small batch testing this week and see what happens.

The only problem is this… Stores have already put in orders and we don’t really have time to sit and wait after 2 weeks to see if the same thing happens again. Although this is what we will most likey have to do, even if it cost us some sales. Quality and flavor is our number one concern.

There’s a lot on the line.

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i ask again:
do you make a flavor base? in case you dont know: you mix all your flavors in advance, in bulk, with the proper percentages, then to make juice, you just add the appropriate percentage for the recipe, then add your PG,VG and nic. it does help the process along…

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I haven’t tried this yet, but I will give it a shot!

Seems like the flavor molecules will diffuse quicker this way,

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I agree that doing this does seem to cut down on steep times.

It is an option on the recipe site under the blue square with the wrench symbol. The first option is make a flavor base.

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yessir…i’m not sure what recipe calculator you use, but the ELR recipe calculator has that option to make flavor base. and yes, i would also assume the molecules will get to know each other a bit and speed the process… if interested, one of us, or i, can give you a quick walk through…

there you go! thanks, brother!!!

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That’s really cool. I just figured it out.

The only odd thing is that it’s saying to add PG as well for the base mix.

Strange I just went to one of mine and clicked make a flavor base and it is not adding PG to the base

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just did the same…and no PG…something is amuck! lol
its gotta be something silly/simple…

I found out that if you click MAX VG that disappears.

It must be calculating the ratio factor in as well, and then you just mix it into the VG and Nic

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choconut (base)

Ingredient ml g %
Chocolate Milkshake (Real Flavors) 4.29 4.29 42.9
Coconut Cream Pie (Real Flavors) 4.76 4.76 47.6
Marshmallow (TPA) 0.95 0.99 9.5

Total base: 10 ml
To be mixed at: 10.5%
This is enough for 95 ml of finished liquid.
Remember to rate it at e-liquid-recipes.com!
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sounds like you got it, brother!
pretty cool little feature, huh?

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that should work fine :+1:

your sterilizing machine? What is the water source? Calcium from hard water might be drying inside bottles. Just a water softener might be an affordable add-on or a de-ionizer for water-based tasks which touch product …or added to product (also affects pH)

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Yeah, its a commercial grade washer made for restaurants but works great for sterilizing equipment as well with high heat. No water softener though.

We have also tried star san as well which is a acid based non toxic no rinse sterilizing formula which is used in the beer brewing world. I used to brew quite a bit of beer!

I would imagine keeping the pH low would help preserve flavor and shelf life. We are going to try some malic acid as well and see if that keeps the flavor around longer.

Ran across this in my steeping notes:
"More steeping time is required if making larger batches or you increased your present VG to PG ratio. "
Never needed the info and don’t remember/didn’t note where it came from. Suggest confirm if possible.

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