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#1

Hi group :grinning:!. I want to learn to diy juice.and I’m looking for a nice and good quality all day vape
My vape wish liquid is strawberry and cream like the milk-man from OHW … I have been part of this site for a few months and will love to anyone here teach me step by step start my journey in diy … I have being reading … Watching videos etc
Any suggestions !!

Thanks !

#2

Welcome to ELR, @MtN-JuN !

What part of DIY ejuice are you needing help with?
If you have been watching videos and reading the Beginners threads, you must have
some specific questions.

Please just ask. No one here will give you a hard time, except maybe @Pro_Vapes or @LordVapor … they are both brats! haha

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#5

Studying the calculator… If I have any problem i will post it thanks for the rapid response

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#6

I assume by now you have read the Resources and Tips for Beginners thread. It has pretty much all the info you need to get you started.

Have you purchased anything yet? If not the folks here can help you with your first shopping list. My advice would be skip the whole syringe thing and go straight to measuring by weight. There are countless scale recommendations here all recommending the same two scales. If I had it to do over again I would have started with This One.

Essential Depot has very good prices on PG and VG. And Nicotine River has some pretty good nic I hear. Nicotine is the hardest thing for new DIYers to figure out. I use 100mg nic in 100% VG because I mix high VG juices. Research and decide for yourself which nic formula is best for you.

From your desire for a Strawberry Cream you are going to want some Strawberry and Cream flavors obviously. Here are some recommendations…
Shisha Strawberry by Inawera (INW)
Strawberry (Ripe) by The Perfumer’s/Flavor Apprentice (TPA or TFA)
Sweet Strawberry by Capella (CAP)
Strawberry by Medicina Flower (MF) (Also called Lotus Flavors at Ecig Express)
Vienna Cream by Flavourart (FA)
Shisha Vanilla by Inawera (INW) (only adding this because it is so good!)
Fresh Cream by Flavourart (FA)
Meringue by Flavourart (FA)

Those are just my suggestions. And I am sure you will get more.

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#7

And don’t go thinking you are off the hook sweety :wink:

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#8

Off the hook? For what? What’d I do? I’m INNOCENT I tell ya!!!

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#9

She says with a sinister grin on her face :smiling_imp:

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#10

As for step by step…my little thumbs can’t type that fast. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Reading will help. Another recomendation for me mixing by weight here. That covers pretty much the step by step as well as the other threads.

My only recomendation or “juice for thought” is plan ahead before making that first purchase. Or making that second purchase. Take notes on what you want to order. Once your plan is ready do a test run and look at the cost to start…then set the plan aside…do some more reading…look at some more recipies…do another plan.

Always ask your self…will I have what I need to make my first batch of juice? Do I have a few highly rated recipies that I can mix for which I ordered flavor concentrates? Are there questions I haven’t asked in the forums regarding what I’m not sure about? Can I afford to buy extra flavors that will allow me to play around with…what’s my spending ceiling?

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#11

I have my all the things to star diy… Digital scale … Gloves … Bottles … Pipettes 1mg … Flavoring… VG …PG… Ready to order but with the nicotine I don’t understand this
100% nicotine…18mg…24mg …100mg … I don’t know what to select … I vape at 3 mg of nicotine. Thanks

#12

A lot of people pick 100mg Nic because you don’t have to use as much and it winds up being cheaper in the long run. I personally don’t like working with nic that is that high since I have cats and a kid. If I buy it that high, I dilute it for every day use and store the rest in the freezer. Usually I buy 48mg or 60mg. In the calculator, you put in what is in your PG/VG and Nic base and then what you want your final strength to be and your final PG/VG ratio and as long as it’s possible, (ie you can’t have 100% VG if you’re using PG based flavors), it will tell you how much you need of each thing.

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#13

100mg Nic in a VG base is what I purchase and I also vape 3mg ejuice. The reason I purchase the higher concentrated Nic is to save money. It needs to be handled very carefully though. It’s extremely caustic. When I receive the Nic, I immediately cut it down to 48mg using VG, then store in my freezer. When I pull one of the smaller 48mg Nic bottles from my freezer, I let it sit for 24hrs in my dark cabinet to return to room temp, shake well one time, then use. Many people just buy 48mg or lower because they don’t want to have to take precautions using gloves, etc to handle 100mg Nic. It’s really up to you.

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I thought I read somewhere it is better to store nic in the freezer at a higher concentration. So if that is true diluting it first is actually not a good thing. Maybe it was on Nude Nicotine’s site? If I remember I will check later. I could be wrong.

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I wonder why?
Hmmm. I would think you’d not want to keep pulling out that bottle of 100mg, thawing, pouring some off, etc.

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I was actually backwards. You are better to dilute it.

This info is from https://www.nudenicotine.com/category/e-liquid-chemistry-education/
"…Few last points to cover – shelf-life varies largely by nicotine strength, as well as PG/VG ratio. Higher nicotine strengths will possess more nicotine molecules, less likely to be completely solvated by their carrier (PG/VG). Put simply – 100mg/mL formulations will keep for less time than a 24mg/mL formulation. PG is also a much better solvent for this purpose – it has an extremely low viscosity, will dissipate dispersed oxygen bubbles quickly (say that 4 times fast!), and has a longer shelf-life chemically (2 years from DOM, vs. VG – 1 year). Thus some may only see a short shelf-life for a 100mg/mL solution kept on a shelf compared to a 24mg/mL solution kept in multiple frozen aliquots. Remember, nicotine solution solvated in wither PG or VG WILL NOT FREEZE!"

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#17

Now you guys have me wondering if I should dilute my 100mg VG base nic. Hmm, I usually just fill a smaller 60ml bottle that I use for my mixing and store the rest. It would be nice to not have to deal with the gloves as I already really cautious when using the nic to not spill or get it anywhere other than in my mix.

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#18

I have a question about the using of scales in g instead of syringes in ml…
this has probably already been addressed else-where, but I haven’t really seen much in detail about it…
how to do you figure ml into g? like if i have a 50ml bottle (like i intend on using) for my juice, how would i be able to measure out each component accurately from such and such ml of this and that, to know how much i would need in g? if that makes any sense at all… lol. I also plan to start DIY, and want to do my first start up order on my next upcoming payday (april 1). in a crunch to get my facts straight, in time. :slight_smile: i originally made a list of syringes and things I thought I would need, based off some starter kits I found at various sites, figured I could get what I need cheaper than buying a $50 kit full of extra stuff I won’t really use. since it will be my first go at it, I would like to be as accurate as possible, so I can document my doings better for future use, with less guess work and estimating…

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#19

I would grab this scale

I personally don’t use syringes any more. I just drip from the bottle. You have to go to your preferences and set the calculator to use grams instead of drops. When you create a recipe and tell it you want to use 2% of this and 3% of that it figures the grams for you. So when you are ready to mix you just set the bottle on the scale. Tare the scale (zero it). Then just add the first ingredient to the bottle until the scale reads the grams listed in your recipe. Once that ingredient is added, tare the scale again and add the next ingredient. Etc.

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#20

So, you are saying, this method is totally dependent on the calculator, then?