Ok, this is a long post, and I apologize early. FWIW, these are my tasting notes and thoughts on some of Walt’s new flavors. I won’t be insulted if you skip it either Disclaimer: please remember I am only 1 person and all tastes are subjective. It takes many of us together to form a general opinion. What I love you may hate, and what I hate you may love. We all like what we like.
A couple of these are the regular VG flavors, and the rest are the new extracts. Overall, I am very very impressed with the extracts. They have almost all been fully flavored and fantastically vape able with only a 3 day steep and extremely low percentages of use. These are going to go a very very long way at this rate of usage. I can’t wait to hear how everyone else is doing with their extracts, please share your results if you can find the time. I ordered Yumberry, Cream, and Marshmallow this last weekend with the Walmart launch, and hope to get some mixing done in the next couple days.
Butter Toffee VG:
Mixed at 15% SF 30/70 PG/VG
At a 4 week steep: Just a slight taste and feel of buttery caramel, moderately sweet. I’m actually very disappointed with this one, I was expecting more. I’m not even getting a toffee flavor really, just weak butter richness with maybe a slightly caramel sweetness. At this point I’m not sure what if anything it will be good with. I would say to add some butter flavor maybe, but I think it would take a higher percentage than reasonable to achieve a buttery effect. Will see if it strengthens with a longer steep.
At a 6 week steep: This hasn’t changed much since the last test. I am going to mix this at 20% and see if the flavor gets stronger. If not, I don’t really see much of a use for this really. The percentage would have to be too high to use as an accent, or even to really get flavor from this one beyond a generic weak creaminess sweetened with a bit of rich caramel.
Dreamsicle VG:
Mixed at 15% SF 30/70 PG/VG
At a 3 week steep: This has a delicious cream base to it that is dominant, creamy without a noticeable thick mouth feel. In the back I can taste just light hints of bright fruit. Moderately sweet with a hint of vanilla, this is a very decent cream flavor. I think this would mix great with anything fruity, and the background fruity notes might compliment or enhance other fruits? I am hoping it will strengthen with a longer steep.
At a 6 week steep: This becomes much creamier with steeping. It has developed to become a very nice cream with a creamy mouth feel that wasn’t present at the earlier steep. The fruits have developed slightly but not much. I get a very light taste of orange and pineapple, but it was so light I couldn’t recognize it without looking up the description for the flavor. Just an overall generic tasting brighter fruit at this percentage. I actually like it, it’s pleasant, but not quite strong enough for a SF. I am going to mix this at 20% and see if the flavor gets deeper, as it does taste good as is, just way too under flavored. However, I don’t usually mix anything that high, so this is a weaker flavor overall. It’s great at 15% if going for a cream, but not if you want the fruit and cream. I would start this at 4-8% as an accent flavor. At this point I’m going to say 20% single flavor?
Brownie Batter Extract:
Mixed at 1.5% SF 30/70 PG/VG using SG of .96 g/ml
At a 3 day steep: OMG. This is a very good strength at 1.5% at 3 days. If the flavor strengthens with a longer steep, I might have to reduce it to 1%, but it’s great at 3 days. I made the mistake of mixing the first batch of this with sweetener, thinking of those “other” chocolates I had tried. It was sickening, had to dump and remake. I recommend trying without sweetener first, then start small if you want more sweetness. Tastes and smells exactly like the name. Imagine you have just stirred that mix with 50 spoon strokes, then scraped the batter into the pan. Then you use your finger to clean the bowl of that delicious, rich, gooey, chocolaty goodness. And it’s not that weak chocolate brownie mix, oh noooo. This is the deluxe Fudge Brownie Mix batter. So thick and rich you can practically feel it coating your tongue mmmmmmmm. Oh, ummmm, where was I at?
Oh yes, it really is that good. Just buy it. Sweet, fudgy, chocolaty, uncooked brownie batter. Nice thick mouth feel even at 3 days. I can honestly say this is the first chocolate flavor I have found that I like. My only caveat would be that this is so realistic and rich that I can’t ADV it. Gets sickening after a while, just like if you have really eaten too much batter. It’s been great for around 3 hours at a time, or whenever I get a sweet tooth. And with coffee, definitely with coffee. I will update at the 4 week steep.
Cola Extract:
Mixed at 1.5% SF 30/70 PG/VG using SG of 1.05 g/ml
Warning on this one. It separates extremely fast. Shake well and shake often and right before measuring. Even when trying to pull 1 ml up in a syringe to weigh it for gravity, I had to cap and shake again between every syringe full. Even though there was less than a minute in between drawing each syringe. It would weigh at 1.04g, then .79g. Then I’d shake and it would go back up to 1.05. Many times. When trying to weigh for gravity, I usually draw three 1ml syringes and use the number that comes up most, usually 2 of 3 times. This one I had to weight like 8 times and shake between each one before I got the same number a few times, so please go by your own SG on this one. And shake immediately before using. Also when putting it into the pg and vg in the flask, the flavoring stayed suspended in little black bubbles by themselves, they didn’t dissolve. I was worried that it would keep separating after mixing. No worries, it blended fine with the frother, and seemed to stay blended after mixing. And it’s very black. Like blended with the black rubber in the syringes so made it hard to see black. However, it didn’t stain the syringes like I thought it would, but with longer exposure it might. I’m also not sure if that will affect how quickly your coils gunk either.
At a 3 day steep: This is a very good strength at 1% at 3 days. It’s nice and sweet. And I absolutely hate it! Which is good for you, as I hate Coke. I have been a Diet Pepsi person my entire life. I can’t even drink regular soda as to me it tastes like pure sugar. This tastes exactly like regular Coke. Not Pepsi, and we all know there is a difference. It is not effervescent, as that means fizzy and bubbly. And obviously it can’t be that as it contains no carbonation. However, it doesn’t have that overly sweet flat taste either. So it tastes like the real thing, just without the tingles. My husband loves it. He likes Coke. He wants me to make him a bottle of rum and coke, and vanilla coke, and cherry coke, and maybe lime coke. And he says maybe cherry vanilla coke. Which I will happily do as long as I don’t have to vape it. I will not be updating this at a 4 week steep, blech. I will leave that to the other testers that actually like coke and let them talk about how a longer steep changes the strength/flavor.
Premium French Vanilla Extract:
Mixed at 1% SF 30/70 PG/VG using SG of 1.19 g/ml
I mostly covered this in a short chat on the forums, so mostly copied and pasted from that conversation with others as I think it mostly covers it?
At a 3 day steep: FV is like a gourmet french vanilla with that thick rich mouth feel even after only a 3 day steep, really curious what a 4 week steep will taste like. It actually tastes like a true FV Custard, rich with the egg yolk but no eggy taste, and the creamy mouth feel rivals CAP V1 for me. I am a huge custard person and CAP V1 has always been my favorite. This has overtaken it and is now number 1 for me. It has that caramelized vanilla flavor, so it won’t be a sub in recipes that just need that plain vanilla creaminess. I would compare it to a super creamy, thick rich home churned FV ice cream.
It’s not that true classic “custard” taste. Most custards are known for that rich egg based and flavored thick vanilla cream. This is more of a an ice cream base french vanilla. I compare it to CAP to compare that creamy mouth feel. Almost like when you eat a bite of pudding or drink buttermilk. You can almost feel that cream type film on your tongue. If I tasted this blind without knowing the name Premium French Vanilla, I would say it is a french vanilla ice cream with the creamy mouth feel and density of a Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream. Or a french vanilla custard. It could be very versatile. I believe this is an excellent SF, and will make an excellent accent as well. I will update at 4 weeks to see how this strengthens/changes with a steep.
Funnel Cake Extract:
Mixed at 1.7% SF 30/70 PG/VG using SG of 1.05 g/ml
At a 3 day steep: This one is not quite as strong as the other extracts I have tried so far. Still not weak, just a very delicate flavor, and it’s obvious with the sniff test, so I started this one a bit higher than the others. I got a very very sweet pile of powdered sugar with a hint of greasiness overlaying a slight play doh. Not really much dough or cake yet. Definitely needs a longer steep time on this one.
Let me say that I am one of the unlucky ones that can only taste Play Doh with CAPs Donut as well, so if you don’t you probably won’t taste that in here either.
At a 1 week steep: This has strengthened and developed a deeper flavor. It’s still very light, and I am now getting a very small hint of play doh every 3rd or 4th hit instead of every one. Except extremely sweet. I am now tasting a weak amount of greasy dough that is drowned in powder sugar. For me, the sweetness is so much more pronounced than the dough, it’s not balanced at all. I don’t get that light fluffy fried dough from it. I can almost taste it though. Hard to tell with this one. I am going to taste this again at 4 weeks to see if the sugar settles and the dough comes out. I am also going to mix another one at 2.5% and see if a little bit stronger blend will bring the dough more forward without being too sweet. And no, this doesn’t taste of cinnamon. If you are looking for cinnamon, I would recommend a churro flavoring. This dough so far will not stand up against adding cinnamon. So still undecided on this flavor, further testing required.