@DarkJester89
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Thanks for the tips everyone. I’ll keep you updated to my progress. I’m finding that at 5% the blackcurrant is far too weak and 2% for the menthol was too, so my next attempt is at 8% and 4%. We’ll see
Just for the record, FA’s Blackcurrant is also one of the main ingredients in FA’s Forest Mix, so like @JoJo said I think that’s your ‘mixed fruit’ and possibly backed up by an additional Blackcurrant.
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Sure I will help 
I’ve never had it but by what you are saying:
Black Currant (INW) - go easy on that one. It’s very strong. I’m going to tell you to start at 1.5 to 2%%.
Menthol - Use 5 to 6% Capella Cool Mint
Sweetener - Use 2% FA Marshmallow
If you find that lacking in flavor or dull:
Pull it together with about 3% Capella Sweet Strawberry, 3% Capella Vanilla Custard and maybe .20% of Cactus.
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OK. So progress has been made! Despite being officially the fussiest vaper in the world I’ve actually managed to make a liquid that I like. This is bearing in mind that I’ve only come across two premium vape liquids that I like, after trying many.
My main discovery is that Flavour’s Apprentice flavours are absolutely hideous (sorry FA!). Both their Black Currant and their Extreme Ice have a really nasty dry mouth feel with little to no discernible flavour.
The recommendations of Forest Fruits by Flavour Art, Blackcurrant by Inawera, Strawberry Kiss by Inawera, the Sweetener by Flavours Apprentice (yay - I did have something good to say about them. They make good sugary liquid) and Strawberry Kiss by Inawera, all worked out very well for me.
Each one of the above is superior to TFA’s range in both taste and mouth feel IMO. The only issue I’m having is that even the blackcurrant flavour tends to have strawberry notes in it. Replicating Buddha Vape’s very rich currant flavour is proving to be a challenge.
Still, I’ve managed to make a liquid I’m very happy with, so +1 EXP for progress.
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Buy it up now before the new formula comes in.
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Flavour’s Apprentice flavours are absolutely hideous (sorry FA!)
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Usually called TPA or TFA. FA is Flavour Art.
Glad you are getting somewhere with it
Thanks Wofam. I know about TFA and FA, just missed the T (as you can see I got right in the rest of the message).
The message that you reposted about IMW leaked reformulations is extremely confusing, as the sentence “It seems Inawera is being forced to reformulate due to some supply chain issue laid out here Due to the entrance into force the tobacco directive we were made to contact our suppliers regarding the receipts of the flavours, otherwise we could not sell our products” not really making a whole lot of sense.
Is he saying that flavour companies can no longer sell to companies that sell DIY vape products? Or is he saying that they have to use a different formula?
As long as an flavor is used for mixing liquids to vape the companies making these flavors need to comply and being able to present the necessary paperwork to TPD in order to be able to continue to sell these flavors.
And if one of the suppliers of the ingredients doesn’t comply with lets say INW and provide the necessary paperwork, INW need to reformulate their flavors in order for the flavors to be TPD compliant.
This goes for any flavor company out there.
It really sucks big time and i guess it’s going to be even worse down the road.
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^^^ yup exactly as Norseman says. I have some of the reformulated milk choc and it is terrible - just suggesting if you like the flavour it may be time to stock up on it since the new one maybe worse (depending on how long you have had your bottle you may already have the new one so it maybe false news lol)
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So why don’t they just open a website for food flavourings to buy?
Who are they?
Not sure i follow you right now.
If I’m getting this right, any flavour company that sell to vape stores have to comply with TPD. Why don’t vape stores just open food flavouring websites that are separate in order to sell flavours? That would seem like an obvious work around, rather than the flavour companies having to comply with TPD. Also, I don’t see how changing their flavour formulas are related (unless, this is something separate that they are doing anyway, which might be the case)
If 1 flavor is used by a e-liquid company to make e-liquid the flavor company needs to file the proper paperwork on that flavor. So there is no work around on this.
Meaning it isn’t just to make a new website that declares they only sell flavor for food or bakery alone since the same flavors are used in e-liquid.
The reformulation come from the fact that one of the suppliers of certain ingredients didn’t wanna provide INW with the paperwork needed for INW to being able to comply with TPD.
Oh I see. I hadn’t thought about that.
From reading the TPD it appears that it does not affect either eliquids that don’t contain nicotine, or eliquid flavourings, so why is there a problem?
Instead of me going through the TPD myself since i got no time for it i will say feel free to read all of it and make your own mind up on certain things. It is written in a Bureaucratic language and might be hard to read so have fun.
Thanks for that. I was having trouble finding the document - not particularly hard to read.
If you’re selling the flavours individually then it’s not regulated, but if you are as part of a tobacco containing product it is.
That’s a pain hey?
Hi, I am on the same quest to find a BV Blackcurrant Burst clone. Could you share your recipe with me so that I can give it a go…
Many Thanks
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Guys, I made this sample and it looks close to what you recommended and some other ideas,
I steeped only 13 days 4 hours breathing.
Blackcurrant tfa 5%
Strawberry ripe tfa 3%
Berry mix tfa 2%
Grape juice 2%
Blueberry wild 2%
Menthol tfa 1%
Sweetener tfa 2%
Nicotine 3%
Max VG
It taste good, feedback please and update this forum with your tests.
Cheers
I lowered the menthol to 0.25% now
It was so minty and powerful @ 1%
Now it’s more closer to low mint effect after this edit.
I posted this up a few months ago, anyone else try it?