Dittos @fidalgo_vapes, @Nicotine_River.
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You will still be shipping Vg PG and Flaves ???
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Flavor concentrates and base products will not be affected, we will still be able to ship these via UPS/USPS. I hope this helps!
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Does River Supply supply any brick and mortar retailers with base products for resale (as nicotine base)? If not I think it would be a great idea for your marketing team to reach out to retail shops making them aware of the DIY demand they could potentially capture. Selling to them would be less of a reporting nightmare compared to the PACT act requirements for retail sale to customers. It would also be of great benefit to us vaping & hobbyist aficionados. Conversely, as mixers, we should start reaching out to local B&M shops inquiring about them carrying nic base for sale in the near future.
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14 posts were merged into an existing topic: USPS, FedEx, DHL & UPS (!) Vape Mail Ban, incoming late March/ April 2021: Discussion, Updates, Info, Venting, Emotional Support
apologies to all for going down this rabbit hole in the wrong string…
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Re another paranoid post, RS’s customer list is now kind of really valuable.
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Believe me, we are continuing to look at ways to get nicotine in the hands of our DIY’ers!
Laura
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Tysvm!.m ;)…
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Will you guys allow in person pickups for orders including nic? I feel like you already do, so forgive me if this is a dumb Q. I’m lucky enough to live within ~2 hours from you guys
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No, we are not able to accommodate in-store pick-up (we haven’t for a year now due to covid) and after the April 3rd UPS deadline, we will no longer be shipping nicotine for personal use (DIY). I would recommend getting an order for nicotine in ASAP because we may need to stop taking orders prior to April 3rd (TBD) due to the high volume we are currently receiving. I hope this helps!
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Thanks for the update. I just received an shipment from you and want to express my appreciation for your products and services. You folks are awesome.
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@Nicotine_River not sure if its been brought up before, but any idea if synthetic nicotine is going to be lumped into the ban? I was just wondering because its not derived from tobacco plants.
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Good question! Yes, all nicotine/tobacco products including TFN are subject to the shipping restrictions beginning on April 3rd. I hope this helps!
Laura
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It does. Thank you. Kinda figured as much
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I’m confused by River Supply. They sent an e-mail with instructions to register your “business” so they can continue shipping B2B. It seemed like a thinly veiled hint to me. Become a business and we can continue shipping to you? Google tells me I can set up a simple LLC business in my state for about $50. Do you suppose that works? Passing the business test proves you are an adult, so USPS, UPS, and Fedex are off the hook and do not care?
Today I visited 3 local vape shops. First time in over 5 years. Two of these were new since last I looked, and 4 others I had bookmarked no longer exist. This is in a midwest metro of 600k population. I went to see what they sell now, and to ask about the PACT vape mail ban.
All the shops were empty, no customers, on a mid-afternoon Tuesday in good weather. Two shops were staffed by millennials with interesting English speaking skills. The third was staffed by 2 crusty old farts. All seemed poorly informed about the ban, and none knew of any plans to take advantage of it, i.e., sell NIC and flavor concentrates over the counter. The old farts got hostile at the suggestion. They feared if they sold DIY supplies it would undercut their prime business because people would mass produce juice and give it away or sell it to their friends.
So, I’m ambivalent. If I were running a vape shop I think I’d look at ways to take advantage of the ban by serving the DIYers, thus bringing more customers in the door. But maybe that would backfire, as the old fart suspected.
The one millennial I could understand said 70% of their customers are probably under 30, and 80% of their sales are probably of pods and disposables. She was even upset by the volume of disposables because she thought they were harmful to the environment (landfill).
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I apologize for the confusion but the email we sent was in order to request the required PACT documentation needed from vape-related businesses id they would like to ship nicotine after April 3rd.
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I live outside Atlanta and there are a bunch of vape shops in the metro area. I’ve gone into a few of them and it seems to me that they carry more CBD products and accessories than anything else. They are also clueless of the upcoming shitstorm.
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Man, ignorance is bliss…
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