Signed and shared in EU in our forum, explaining what’s going and urging to sign before we get the sh… over here as well.
And people over here have already started signing… They’re texting me and confirming this on the forum.
It’ll be a 24hr a day thing, EU-US-AU TIMES… over 700 signatures since I signed and that is in about half an hour!!
Outta likes, but thank you @woftam. Signed, shared, passed on …
Yeah well, color me sceptical but that public comment period IMHO is bullshit and a waste of time.
Does anyone honestly believe that comments from the public will make a bit of difference? The powers that be have already made their minds up. Allowing the submission of public opinions/comments is simply a formality and will largely fall on deaf ears.
People cannot imagine that a real and tangible (albeit of a dubious overall significance) public commenting process meaningfully exists - yet they can nevertheless imagine that “Mr President” is required to physically affix his “signature” to an FDA Agency Rule - when he is not. So rich. Trump may find that a useful illusion.
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That “Hell Boy’s” oral expurgations could reassure anyone on the planet seems anathema to rationality.
Signed I don’t know if I count being in Australia but it’s still BS what they are doing.
Thanks for having a go and standing up for what’s right!
The question is this survey is so slanted but currently I am signing everything I can find this one the ban winning at about 70% lets get on it and turn the tide
Getting killed in this one spread it far and wide https://iqconnect.lmhostediq.com/iqextranet/EsurveyForm.aspx?__cid=FL13VB&__sid=100980&__crop=15666.78214524.6500039.7925298
After six deaths and hundreds of vaping-related illnesses, the White House announced a ban on the sale of most flavored electronic cigarettes, a device popular among teenagers that simulates smoking by delivering nicotine through a cigarette-style vaporizer. Do you support or oppose the ban?
Talk about slanted opinion.
Years ago in the 1970s I used to live in St Petersburg, Florida just to the north of his “barnyard”. (Then, and likely still now), one of the most very conservative (and wealthy) Florida counties. Wonder how Vladimir’s trolls are voting on this poll - probably for the Orange “over-dogs” …
This is a link to a browser viewable version of an email I received from ejuices.com.
They are a vendor I recently used, for some gear I ordered. Not only do they have great prices & sales on gear, but they are joining the fight to spread the word. They will be getting return business from me.
I couldn’t figure out how to copy, paste, screen grab the email, so it’s contact links still worked, so I just posted the link to the browser version of the email.
You can never trust anything this guy says and never know what’s going to happen until he puts a signature on it… that’s the scary part of it. All you want to do as long as he’s in office is hope that he’s not going to think or talk about anything important to you. He changes his mind depending on the last person he talks to and it’s a flip of a coin, you never know what direction it’s going to be heading.
When the POTUS puts out a statement like that, I want to be hopeful. But he is a member of the government, so…
I agree but that tweet says someone is in his ear giving him proper info. A friend mentioned Sean Hannity vapes so that may be who is defending vaping?
I am sure the petition helped as well along with the calls to the White House, I did both along with a lot of vapers.
I don’t think Trump is different than anyone else out there, getting swept UP in the moment, reading all of the story after stories about “Vaping Killing People”, etc. Don’t know if his advisors are any different or not. I’ve actually had more than a dozen clients call or text me, nervously questioning vaping, and I calmly gave all the details, so at least some of the people who buy from me, as well as some “well meaning” family members, are up to snuff on the actual DETAILS.
I’m trying to think back (failing memory and all that), as to exactly how LONG the original, “Vaping is KILLING” story ran, uninterupted with NONE of the relevant details… Feels like it was almost 2 full weeks of that, THEN, slowly THC, Black Market, started peppering in to a FEW of the stories. Then another week went by, then the peppering of the details grew even more, with SOME mention of the Vitaman E Acetate (thickening agent) started to surface. Another week went by, and NOW, it seems the DETAILS are getting some FRONT billing.
Not only did I have to field calls/texts from clients, and family members, but I have been asked countless times out and about while vaping, so clearly the “Vaping is KILLING people” message (the ORIGINAL message) is out there, but not sure on the saturation level of the “Yeah, but they were all black market, thc, vitamin e acetate related” details.
Doesn’t matter how many people I have to tell, I will clearly, and calmly spread the info over, and over, despite it becoming repetitive. It’s ALL of our jobs to do so at this point.
With a whimper, not a bang …
Well, I’m working VERY HARD to keep politics out of my posts on ELR. We have too much of that crap already, and it doesn’t need to get smeared all over, here as well. Leave it at the door. Trying to be fair. And, when I had been contacted by soo many people, nervously about the “dangers of vaping”, it’s no different for politicians, presidents, etc. Just reacting to the “if it BLEEDS it LEDES” press that we have these days. Some well meaning (and some not), just feeling COMPELLED to DO, or say SOMETHING. It’s a mess.
And because I’m about 102% convinced it’s the THC’ers, and the Black Market’ers we have to thank for this mess. I have NOT a lot of love for both of those groups right now. The ones who ARE to blame for this mess.
Perhaps unprincipled Profiteers share moral liability together with perverse Prohibitionists whose Draconian dicta have engendered such ultimately rationally avoidable dangers and harms. It is a demonstrably absurdly failed premise that any person/group can or will ever obliterate, or productively legislate, autonomous human natures regarding private conduct via farce of compulsion in Moral Culture Wars donning Medical Masks and Police Badges, wreaking avoidable societal havoc and harm upon the populace for over 100 years time.
The long “list of offenders” observably and demonstrably spans a wide spectrum of sundry socio-political cults. Such Protean self-serving scoundrels have numerous “last refuges” that shall here remain un-named.
And just when you think it can’t get worse with the black market THC cartridges…
PS fake science warning