N.E.T Creations and Reviews (Naturally Extracted Tobaccos or Teas)

E-liquids NET Creations and Reviews
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Iā€™ve overlooked this topic for a while and was so engrossed catching up I was vaping a dry tank and got a very bad dry hit :grin: I was just having a taste of my American Spirit cold extracted N.E.T which tasted pretty good btw until it was finished without me realising it. Unscrewed the tank to see if I had any gunk but the cotton is still white.
I have done cold and heat extraction and although the heat extraction method gives you a much darker liquid, it is also killing the coils a lot faster.

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In a way, that speaks volumes about your filtering techniques. However, itā€™s also my thinking that more of the natural sugars (dextrose) from the tobacco is extracted when using a heated maceration method.

I have had the same results as you, when speaking of cold vs heated extractions. I prefer the flavor of the vape with the heated extraction a bit more; quite a bit bolder flavorā€¦thatā€™s for me. Now, I just need to work on my winterization and filtering processes. Ordering some 2.5 micron filters for my final filtering process is on my short list. :+1:

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Iā€™m experimenting with the ratio of tobacco and PGA to see if the flavour gets bolder by just using more tobacco, l really like the clean product you get with cold extraction.
The other thing Iā€™ve noticed is that there is also a difference in colour when you do cold extraction with PG/VG instead of PGA. The PG/VG method also results in a darker liquid. Donā€™t ask me why.

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Question guys . Did the nicotine come over in the extraction process? Or did you need to bump it back up ?

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I found not a great amount of Nic makes it over. I know what a sickening feeling it is to have a nicotine high after speed vaping a mix. I have speed vaped my NET liquids and have never experienced a bad nicotine high. Thus, I feel the Nic content is fairly low in my NET juices.

So yes, I have had to bump up the nicotine in my NET juices.

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Hey if you are familiar with the process of extracting tobaccos why dont you make that dream NET of yours yourself! @Jimk :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/cigars/11249/excalibur/

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Another question wonder if distilling that stuff instead of filtration would work. Would be a lot less messy I think . cheaper in the long run too. But Iā€™m not sure how it might affect the flavor.

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do you mean via steam distillation? @mat2

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Yes. A beaker with the sludgeover heat. With a coiled iced spiral to a receiver unit.

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Bookmarked! Thanks for the link.:+1:

I love doing NET, but I need to step up my game with the filtering process and buy a good filter system with some 2.5micron filters, before I get back into doing a lot of NET.

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I haveā€™t tried for our purposes yet. But I have a friend that uses steam distillation to make amazing essential oils. I would assume that the processes would yeild a similar result.

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filtering can be a pita. standard coffee filters are about 20 micron but going smaller than that you will need a pump to get the glycerine through @Jimk

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So far, Iā€™ve let gravity do the work, but it takes an overnight stint. I simply need low micron filters to catch more of the icky stuff that kills my coils and cotton. The flavor from NET is wonderfulā€¦getting there is the challenge. :pensive:

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I had one 100 ml batch of PG based NET take 4 days to gravity filterā€¦lol. That inspired me to come up with a vacuum filter set up. It works great. The one thing I have to keep an eye on, is making sure the 1.5 micron filter paper is ā€˜sealedā€™ to the Buchner funnel. If itā€™s not, the NET will seep around the edge of the filter paper, bypassing it.

So far, the best remedy Iā€™ve found for that, is using a bead (so to speak) of VG around the inside edge of the Buchner funnel, then putting the filter paper in, and pressing the filter paper into the VG with my finger. That seems to help.

Iā€™m still trying to brainstorm some sort of holder that holds the filter paper firmly, around the edge. I might need to contact MacGyver. Finding out what works is half the fun!

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Thank you so much for letting me know that! Iā€™ve been wondering about that issue! I could see it in my headā€¦NET bypassing the filter around the edges in the funnel!

Please keep us informed as to how you make that process better! :+1:

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Iā€™n not sure of the diameter of your funnel, but how about a large stainless steel ring? Ive seen them in all sizes, and it should be heavy enough to be able to just drop it in there

Like these: http://www.strapworks.com/Metal_O_Ring_p/mor.htm

edit: those are nickle plated brass, but I know they have stainless at sailing shops

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Nice thinking @Errl!

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--stainless-steel-o-rings--P002_060_006_002

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yep, thats where Iā€™ve seen them! about 13 years ago when i had a job there as a young lad lol

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Yeah, good idea @Errl. My funnel is slightly tapered. Itā€™s 3 inch at the top, and 2.75 inch at the bottom, where the filter paper sits. Itā€™s 1.75 inches deep. If I could find something like those, that were 2.75 OD and made out of square stock, it would be perfect.

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here ya go buddy, I think they have 2.76 square :wink:

http://www.jbprince.com/professional-culinary-molds/ring-molds.asp?viewall=1

like this here might work: http://www.jbprince.com/molds/valrhona-perforated-square-tart-ring-2.75-inches-length.asp

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