Wonder who is behind the pressure on the governments to implement these measures?
Hopefully we will opt out of Europe soon?
Far too many rules, regulations and laws are being enforced on the UK!
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Who’s stocking them Walt?
The TPD is probably already responsible for most of the recent surge in interest among UK vapers about making their own juices despite the effects of it not really kicking in for at least another year.
But that ought to be a good reason for flavouring retailers to be very keen to expand the choice of concentrates on offer, not play hard to get.
I appreciate it’s only sensible that they check the merchandise themselves but they ought to be picking up on the enthusiasm in the US market and hassling like hell for those samples.
@Chewy - Don’t forget that until very recently, the UK government wanted full medical licensing of vaping gear and juices and steadfastly refused to listen to reason. It was only MEPs voting down the initial proposal after strong lobbying by the vaping community, that forced governments from the member states to compromise that position and produced the TPD2.
The TPD is dreadful for future vapers and pretty awful for us but it’s a whole lot better than anything the UK government would have brought in on their own!
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I agree with most of your points and reasoning but getting a crap deal doesn’t make it a better crap deal?
I would hazard a guess, based on tobacco sales in Europe, that more pressure is placed upon the EU from pharmaceutical and tobacco companies than old blighty?
The problem in this country is education of MPs.
We the vaping community should be sounding out politicians who are sympathetic to our community and see the benefits of vaping.
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ok…i received a few bottles last month to try out and the least i can do is speak up, right?
i received blue raz, caramel, cinnamon custard and apple. i mixed each one up and let them steep a month and have so far tried 3 of them. i mixed them up based on the websites recommendations coupled with some words given to me by Walt. here are my findings:
blue raz…15% and with the advice of Walt, tossed in 1% of malic acid. this is good, just the way it is. nice blue raspberry flavoring, candied, of course, and a nice bite to it from both the malic acid and the blue raz itself. i started at 15% and dont thing it needs any fine tuning at all. i wouldnt go either way with it, up or down. 15% may be a bit hi, but for a standalone flavor/recipe/mix/juice, i dont think so…16% all together…i have many recioes with 16%. i made a 30ml botle of this and vaped all of it in 2 days. i WILL be making this again. if you mixed this with other tart/sweet flavors, then of course you wouldnt need the full 15%. i bet, with a few other like ingredients, and maybe a little dairy type support, this would make a fabulous sherbet/sorbet. good stuff…i like this one.
caramel…i mixed this one right away at 20%, and yeah, this was a bit high…its a typical caramel flavor, but i detect a bit of, um, something burnt? or slightly scorched? maybe creme brulee style? not sure…or it just doesnt handle 110w vaping. it smells marvelous and tastes wonderful on the tongue. standalone, its probably not for me, but caramel usually isnt. it would do very well as a caramel additive, mixer, or support…especially if this is your choice for PG sensitive people. its not a candied caramel, not a butterscotch, not a salted caramel. its just straight caramel, with a hint of that burnt flavor. maybe burnt is a bad word, but i’m not sure what word to use here.
cinnamon custard…i went with 20% standalone again and again, i overshot it…this is rich custard and at 20% a heavy taste of cinnamon. we have all heard Ken rant on this one, so we know its good. i will definitely use this as a custard support to CAP VC to achieve a new depth in some of my custard recipes. this will give you a new way of using custard and cinnamon in a recipe without having to risk the FLV rich cinnamon “oops, 3 drops was too much” lol…you guys know what i mean, lol…i like this stuff…
@Walt_RealFlavors, thanks for sending me the blue raz and cinnamon custard, those were/are boh excellent!!!
the apple hasnt been vaped yet, i keep putting it off, because i cant imagine a standalone apple vape as being that good, but i’m gonna do it! i mixed that one at 15% and it does smell pretty delicious, but mostly makes me wanna drive to Kroger and pick up some honeycrisp apples…my favorite! i’ll report on that one when i try it!
thanks again @Walt_RealFlavors and thanks for listening guys!
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I recently received my first RF flavor order, including Red, White & Blue Popsicle, Birthday Cake, Blueberry Acai Pomegranate, Vanilla Custard, Strawberry Milkshake, Mtn Juice, Peach, Raspberry & their Candy Base.
I have never worked with all-VG flavors before (I usually use FA, CAP or TFA. I also have a few LA & INW too), so I got my feet wet with the Red, White & Blue Popsicle (Bomb Pop). Used it at 14% & vaped it right away with plans to now let it sit a week or so & try it again. On the first shake & vape I’d say the flavor was pretty accurate & pleasant, but maybe could have been stronger, though. I’m waiting to see if it stays like that or if maybe being all VG, it might need time to develop a more dominant flavor profile?
Anyway, I’m hoping to find a few really good flavors out of this order & would be happy to hear any advice anyone has about RF.
Thanks.
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The best advice I can give you on this is steep times are 3 weeks to 5 weeks minimum before you make any changes. That is my opinion only and based on my experiments with RF flavors over the past 2 months or more now.
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Thanks for the advice! I was thinking that might be the case with all the VG.
I will definitely wait longer before making changes than if I was working with my other flavors.
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Has anyone tried Rocky Road Ice Cream yet? I’ve got a bottle that I mixed at 7% steeping right now. I haven’t tested it at all yet, I figured I’d give it a solid week bare minimum before even trying. It smells reeeally good though!
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I haven’t, but I’ve been waiting to hear about it. My hubby’s favorite ice cream. If it’s good I might have to get some and make it for him 
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Me as well , going to have to order more Shamrock Shake within two weeks and am adding ones to the cart that I would like to try.Hope this is a winner as chocolate anything is a hard flavor to nail down unless using the extracts.
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Did anyone know if we can replicate nana cream with Real Flavors?
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Looking forward for some guidance
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I’m sorry, not on this one. I haven’t tried RF banana, and I’ve never tasted Nana Cream if you are referring to the clone I see people talk about all the time. I do have a recipe for Banana Wafer Pudding in my public recipes that I like a lot if you want to check it out.
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Cant say that i have every tried it, im not a fan of Nana Cream at all. Sorry 
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I am ashamed to admit it but I have never tried Nana Cream myself.I have only made one mix with banana at all and that was Bangin Bourbon Bread from skiddlzninja , it just wasn’t for me.One of these days I am going to get the courage to mix up your Strawnana Custard to see if I can handle the LA Banana Cream!
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It tastes nothing close to the banana in nana cream, I am positive that RF Banana won’t work. Not to be negative it seems to be a decent Banana, it’s just not the right one.
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