In mod reviews only?? this is vaping …its all aduly period. We cant pick and choose some people oover another.
Threads get derail for many reasons…
iT IS favortism to allow it for reviewrs only…period
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I may just take you up on that. Same in return if you feel the need.
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Why because you can review? I mean I have seen make comments outside reviewing… I have rtoo. What is all this about derailing a thread? I can go to many threads right this minute that are derailed for many other reasons… why are we not disicussing this too then?
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Wow, that is a LOT of comments thus far. First off @Steampugs needs to stay right here !!! Second, I might have a higher tolerance level than some, but I’ve not seen any reviews that contained anything that was that bad. A little wink-ity wink never hurt a review that I know of. I think the one single biggest issue is the sexual derailments that have been mentioned above. I may have contributed to a few derails, but after a while, as others have stated, the derails get kind of tiring. I sure hope I don’t have to stop, “That’s what SHE said”, and the like, but trimming down some of the rediculous back and forth derails wouldn’t hurt anyone. Having a dumping ground for things that got out of control isn’t a bad idea either, BUT, still technically part of the site, so not sure how much traction that gets.
Personally I’d like to see a new “likes for snitches” program, so for every thread I report, I get more likes. I’m ALWAYS running out !!! Kidding, no likes for snitches please. I would like MO likes by the way.
I’ve been down this road before, on a large forum, and had minors, and adults both present. We made sure the open public side was tight as a drum, the adult/member side was looser, but we still kept it from getting to out of control, mostly by mods. I’m assuming the same thoughts are in play here as well, so having dealt with that, I can appreciate at least why an attempt is being made.
As others have stated, I would hate to see the pendulum swing TOO far, as that could/would/might really leave people more WORRIED about what or how to post, than THE post, which could proved to be crippling. @Ken_O_Where hasn’t sounded like he was trying to go heavy handed into this, but capping some of the crap, and derails, so I’m not overly concerned. Having a place where you can let loose a little more, wouldn’t be a bad idea either, and entering at your own risk (if you have kids present, looking at your monitor), would be assumed.
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Im sorry but a thread created and clearly marked as naughty is NOT the same as taking over threads with with the same type of banter. It just isnt.
All we are asking is that its kept in the appropriate place. Just because this is an adult forum doesnt mean all the adults want to watch a rated R movie. But there is a place for it.
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Where does the reviews state naught?
ya know what… ignor all my comment. Between this thread and the issuing of and the promotion elistist who talks down to others… I know it wont matter what I say.
Theres certiain cliques and its acceptable for some and not others… i will move on
Thank you for those who helped me in my quest for knowledge and to not smoke Hugs to all
Edit I find it even more horrible that being told in private how all would be told to follow rules, and that it was being work on… only to see this as the solution and told it is ok again for some , is just so misleading and wrong… i lost faith being told one thing and slammed here with another
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They are in the Saloon where the NSFW is not only implied it is discussed in the very first post. As well as her reviews being called VapeyMamas Naughty Reviews.
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It’s not biased though because it’s not the same. It’s all about the context. Reading a review that’s specifically written to be fun as well as informative, it’s going to be in that style of writing from the beginning, on purpose. Those who don’t like the style, don’t need to read it. Now there’s a suggestion to add a parental warning of sorts so the church going folks don’t have to read them, fair enough.
When someone makes a topic asking about adding a fluffy mouth feel and ten replies in they’ve got NC-17 rated soft porn going on, that’s where the problem comes in. That’s derailing. That kind of thing should not be compared to the reviewers who start out intentionally adding a bit of sass.
EDIT: P.S I’m out of likes so please don’t feel like I’m “DIS-liking” anyone by not handing them out anymore. I love you all…mostly 
lol
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So I know I’ve done my fair share of derailing threads and for that I am sorry. I do my best to keep it in check but alas from time to time it gets away from me. The main issue I see is that some members of this forum take things a bit to far in both directions. Horse play and strict that is not allowed here sometimes even when there are no rules broken. So I guess what I’m trying to say is we need to come together and stop fighting amongst ourselves we have way bigger enemies at the gate and if we continue down this road we will all be looking over our shoulder to see who is with us to find we are all alone. I guess I’m just saying we have rules we don’t follow and we need to is it because they are to strict possibly but I don’t think so, we all just got into a bad habit of doing whatever we want wherever we wanted and that’s where the trouble lies. I really don’t know what I’m getting at but hopefully it will come to me soon.
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@Mizzz_Z_Hobbit YES !!!
@Ken_O_Where for clarification (and I don’t make threads like this), the sexual derails are an issue, but if threads are STARTED sexual/racey are those an issue too (i.e. I vape butter in the nude, etc.) ??
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@Cutlass92 Me too ^^^^, and I’m liking this (after I wake up) …
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Thank you, d00d. Seriously. It aint just one of us, that’s why i said no call-outs, and that is the point i have been trying to make. Have i derailed threads with utter and complete stupidity? Yer damn right i have but i dont anymore and havent for a long time.
If it is in the Saloon, have fun but not Joel level fun and we are all good. I think most here have agreed with that.
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So a bit of a recap here.
Saloon stays put, naughty things stay there. Lars agreed that anything an 8 year old shouldnt see doesnt belong in the public side of the forums.
Keep the Saloon NC-17 or lower and if you go into the Saloon and get offended dont come complaining to us.
No thread derailments, henceforth if you are gonna get all kinds of derailment crazy your information may be lost forever. I dont see a reason for us to clean up after others.
Keep the language on the public side half way decent and by that i mean swearing is allowed just dont get stupid with it. You know wtf im talking about.
If you feel you are beginning to derail to far split the thread into either a new thread or into a PM.
Did i miss anything?
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yes we agree… what was told in pm’s is out the winndow … some get to do as they choose. others abide rules… got it thank you very much for the encouragment
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You are welcome and thank you.
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I vote to keep it clean and keep the rules simple.
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What works for me is “I read what I like and don’t what I don’t”. There are some threads I stay away from, simply because it “isn’t my thing”. Perhaps I miss out on some important or humorous matter within those threads, but that is my choice and as long as I have that choice, I’m OK with it. I do acknowledge that my skin is getting more leathery with each sunset and I don’t get offended easily, just as much as there are good people whose tolerance for “bawdy” or “salty” language is different from my own, and I respect that. Regarding sexual or graphic images, the internet is full of that stuff and I can go anywhere on the World Wide Web and find it in a matter of seconds. That is not why I come to ELR. If there are threads that contain that (and most are label as such), I simply don’t enter. Simple.
So what to do? Not sure. I’m a firm believer in self governance but I know that this is not the answer as we all believe and behave in different manners. Whatever the outcome, I hope that this remains the best site on the net. If my opinion changes, I will simply move on with no fuss, no muss and no chips on the shoulder.
Good luck trying to figure it all out. I sincerely mean that as I know it isn’t easy.
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I start hearing about rules, it concerns me. I really don’t see a point. Its a very slippery icy slope down the rabbit hole before this forum is run into the ground like so many other forums have been.
Should there be some sort of way to flag a thread/post/image as NC-17 and some sort of “click to view” feature shade the image to protect the innocent? Sure.
Should any imagery or hyperlink that is NC-17 be required to be flagged by its author? Sure.
Should there be a warning and/or penalty if that isn’t done? Sure.
If a post threatens the physical safety of a member or others, should it’s author be sanctioned? Sure.
Do people that are butthurt because someone told them how dumb they are need protection? No
Should we prevent people from derailing threads? Somewhat I think, and this is a topic I’ll go into at length.
Derailing threads to me comes in 2 forms.
One is where someone gets carried away with explaining how big their whatever is and how awesome they feel about it in someone else’s thread. Thats not cool, and it should be avoided. Penalized? Perhaps not, unless a specific user is habitual with it. Mod should perhaps move the discussion of the amazing whatever to a new thread and remind the user not to derail threads.
However, I frequently see another form of derailing that drives me nuts. I will see a new user with a typical question have their thread immediately derailed with some links to other threads on similar topics. This is typically done by a specific person who I wont name, and to me it is really obnoxious. I get that this is the easy way, and that there is a wealth of good information in those core threads, but I also think it makes new members feel dismissed. For every good post in these great reference threads, there are 3-5 posts that are outdated, inaccurate or flat out wrong. The idea that a person cannot ask their question without being told to stfu and rtfm is obtuse. Keep in mind that when a person creates a thread, the forum automatically asks them if any of these other threads might be helpful, and 9 times in 10 you are linking them the same threads they didn’t accept the first time. Mixing is intimidating at first and some people are going to need a little hand holding to get there. If the only thing you have respond with is rtfm, you should be reminded to give a considered, helpful response that isn’t just a bunch of links. Its fine to put those at the end of your comment I think, but just posting links the person has likely already seen is about as unhelpful as can be. Mod should be watchful of these posts too and flat out delete them. They should be treated the same by Mod as any other derailing. If we need someone to do this, I’m sure we could have a robot that watches for threads created by users <30 days old and immediately responds with the links to the appropriate threads. We could just send an automatic message to new users with the top 10 or 20 “must read” threads when they create their account.
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