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Black Note NET - Cloned? Ripped off at Health Cabin?

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Does anyone know if this stuff is genuine? Or has it been cloned and ripped off??
Health Cabin in China is claiming to sell Black Note products at 1/5th to 1/10th the price of the branded products from Black Notes factory website in the USA.

Here is the Health Cabin Page…

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NET Black Note E-liquid Review #2 - update 2019
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I chat with black note representative on their site, this was the chat

Sorry, I never print screen on desktop before.

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#3

But by saying that they’re saying that HC can do whatever he wants with their products… :rofl:

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#4

Maybe they’re stuck with them by a contract or something

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#5

There’s no telling what kind of screaming deal HC gets with BN?!? It could all be on the up and up… who knows?

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#6

Well we are going to find out, as I just pulled the trigger on the complete array of 10ml sample bottles.
I will report back when they arrive.

This comes at an opportune time as I was in the process of preparing taste test reviews on Black Note for publication here. Now that will be delayed until the China stuff arrives. but, hahaha, I am sure you can all wait a little longer for my juice reviews. As, anyway, my reviews are always received with flashing lights and sirens and a parade for me down main street as the Sheriff escorts me the the jail at the end of town. - (just ask @Smoky_Blue ) ROTFL - ::roll_eyes:

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I received the shipment from Health Cabin. The products ordered were the 10ml sample bottles that normally come in the “Notebook Sample Box”

VERY IMPORTANT -->> Please do your own testing and your own due diligence. Do not take my following comments as gospel !!! Get your own data, and your own samples for comparison and YOU BE THE JUDGE .

The manufacturer of the glass bottles, the shrink wrap seals for those bottles appear to be identical and not cloned.

The Labels also appear as printed identical, except for changes in the layout of some of the verbiage and the lack of the BEST BY DATE on the China Samples. I think this has more to do regulation compliance rather than any result of cloning. The GREEN Background tint on the samples of SOLO and SONATA is slight off color shade, but I think it is within the normal color drift of printing batches. I do not believe the labels are cloned, and “pass” the visual test.

The verbiage of the product descriptor was uniformly changed as follows:
FROM ---->>>> TO
“Kentucky Tobacco” -->> “A Kentucky Blend”
“Cavendish Tobacco” -->> “A Cavendish Blend”
“Fote Burley Tobacco” -->> "“A Burley Blend”
“Quartet Latakia Tobacco” -->> “A Latakia Blend”
“Prelude Virginia Tobacco” -->> “A Virginia Blend”
“Menthol Blend” -->> “A Menthol Blend”

I have two identical Vandy Vape 18mm Berserker RDA set up with identical coils 3.0mm 26ga SS contact coils, on: identical JoyeTech VIC VTWO Mini regulated mods set to 15 watts:

I A/B taste tested back and forth between the two setups and can in no case detect any difference between the USA and the CHINA samples. They all “pass” my taste test and I determine that the juice is identical and not cloned.

Hope this has been helpful.

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Food for thought (no pun intended…), The bottle bottom marking using the “HJ” symbol has been used for many years by H.J. Heinz Company. These bottle stamp markings are vigorously protected by their trade mark owners.

On March 25, 2015, Kraft Foods Group Inc. announced that it would merge with the H.J. Heinz Company, owned by 3G Capital and Berkshire Hathaway Inc., to form the world’s fifth-largest food and beverage company.The companies completed the merger on July 2, 2015.

The combined company operates in 20 countries and has a dominance presence in the food flavoring, extract, and processing business worldwide.

Just sayin… Draw your own conclusions…

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