Been using prebuilt coils for like a year, cause coils last forever if you treat them right, and I had one of those demon killer 8-in-1 discs with 48 in it … . ohh, I should get a grab-bag of flat stuff, wait, stay focused >.>
Right! So, I went to some shops today, looking for flat wire so I didn’t have to wait until after my vacation to play with it (cause Crazy Wire is awesome, but in the UK) and - apart from discovering that there are about 100 (literally) vape shops vaguely in my area, and several places with like 5 on a single street (colleges man), I found out vape shops don’t sell DIY stuff anymore o.o Like, none of them. I didn’t get wire until the eighth place I visited, and that place just straight up gave me some ribbon wire they weren’t even trying to sell. I pointed out they had a coil master and wicks and stuff for sale and he was like “I completely forgot about those!” It was. . .weird. I liked the two guys at that place, but I kinda hate what vape shops have become. Tho, given my chat with those guys, the FDA has at least as much to do with it as the hobby moving into the commodity sphere (people not wanting or being able to DIY) and what the major companies have done to aggravate that trend – specifically, apparently, shops aren’t allowed to help you troubleshoot a setup anymore because it’s dangerous? The hell? I knew about the ban on samples but this is just, weird. . .right, topic man, topic.
But, I get home and start playing with the ribbon wire and. . .dude, I thought .3 316 L SS was a bitch to make a simple coil with o.o After a few fails I grabbed my mixed twisted wire (because I don’t do wraps by hand, I made a few a long time ago, hated it, to each their own) just to see if I was out of practice:
It took two tries, but tell me that ain’t nice. Really helps that a sturdy, round wire plays nice with the coil jig. That’s a .26ohm setup btw, sitting on my Tsunami 25.
So, all right, half the problem is clearly that it’s flat wire, so let’s try a thick flat wire. Enter the Juggernaut wire (316l SS).
Twisted by hand, and it shows, but still sexy. It’s running an absurd .16ohm, thus the single coil. That deck says V80041, so it’s probably a Velocity V2 clone. My tendency to buy clones might have something to do with why my horde of RDAs has shrunk – yet none of my RTAs were clones, and they all got binned, also my Goon was authentic, and the post broke. I really, really dislike anything with a floating post on one side - everything I had like that is broken :P. Stay on topic man >.>
Right, so, a couple more failed attempts later, I give you my (janky) Ribbon Wraps!
Look, they were prettier before I put the cotton in. The cotton did NOT want to go in – or, rather, the wire wanted to go along with the cotton and totally screw up the coil >.> That’s 8 wraps and .76ohm, vaping at 18w (like, it feels wrong, so low XD) I flat-out gave up at trying to do one with 4.5 wraps. I can’t do it - the coil jig just layers it on top of itself when it works at all, slips around, and sometimes twists the wire – and doing it by hand I can get a 4.5 wrap. . .which the cotton then destroys. Oh, that’s (one of) my Wismec Inde Duo, I freaking love this RDA man.
I honestly had fun today. I’ll probably build me up a stash of coils in the next week, and then not do it again for another year :P. I’m out of alien and hive coils. . .I LOVE my alien and hive coils.
I didn’t really get this broken in before my battery died tho, so I’m not sure about the flat coils other than “Hey, they work!” and “Hey. . .I really hate new wicks.”
wrapping a few more juggernauts today for later (beefier ones because most my RDAs don’t play so nice with single coil builds, even if they do have both single and dual airflow) just reminded me how nice it is to work with sturdy wire, even if it is flat. Which is kinda funny, because I hadn’t used much at all of that spool because, when I got it, I only had one deck it fit in (I started with RTAs) and also wrapping by hand is a little annoying, except when contrasted with wire that’s properly hard to work with.
Only tried flat/ribbon on one velocity type and bit of a pita so only use it on clamp type. Those chunky post like lower ohms imo. My question is why no pics of a quad verticals in the inde duo?
Someone sent me an old inde and theorem but damn if the inde barrel no longer will sit on the deck w/ o-rings to keep it on there and have the original packaging w/ all the spares for the theorem but no actual deck 
looked forward to try quad verts in both but can always grab either for 5 bucks if i get itchy enuff.