Yeah it took me a little bit to figure it out, but I was convinced with a fresh wick
Changing Now TY
I dunno… rumors are just that.
Passion Fruit (Chemnovatic) 7% (6-26-20) – While admittedly never solo’ing a Passion Fruit, but having used them quite a bit, this was going to be a double first for me. First PF SFT, and first Chemnovatic. First one on deck, after a 1 week sleep @ 7% was pretty damned tasty. It presented as a very nice, full PF, which seemed to cover the entire spectrum of notes, all in one flavor. Had the somewhat darker low end, with a generous helping of the more melony mid notes, with JUST enough high end punch to finish it off. That’s about exactly how it vaped/tasted, in that order. Had a nice authentic almost fermented mini-push (as I call it), which helped tweak the overall experience, and kind of tied it all together. It was nice, fat, and full at this testing weight, with nothing off-putting, chemical or otherwise detracting. Having not SFT’d other PF’s, this one seemed to be a little more unique in that it really captured the spectrum from somewhat dark, to mid, to high end. Sweetness was actually lower than expected at mid, to mid-low which is always a bonus, so you could boost sweetness as/or when needed. Overall experience was GREAT with my first Chemnovatic flavor, and couldn’t find any take aways. Nicely done, and super solid @ 9.5/10.
[image] [image] Chemno’s rates appear on the high side, but having never tried them, will settle at the mid point for testing. Cookie (Chemnovatic) 9% (6-28-20) – Cookies may be one of the hardest flavors to get right for everyone. Soo many different kinds. American, European, Dry, Chocolate Chip. My absolute current favorite is DIYFS Cookie, and that was more of an American Toll House cookie. This one was actually not like any other I’ve tried yet. If I were forced to compare, it is…
First i want to say I love the way you review these flavors , all of them …I am wondering though is your score based off just the flavor ???
Thank you very much @fidalgo_vapes. Yes, it is based mostly off my interpretation of the flavor as named, and useability is also taken into account. If a flavor is extremely narrow or particular, and it’s use may be limited, I try to take that into account. Accuracy would be the top scorrer, followed by richness of profile, depth, appropriate sweetness. And takeoffs typically being inaccuracies, off-putting notes, excessive sweetener (or lack thereof), florals, chemicals, etc.
Taste testing IS very subjective, and can be very unique to the tester, i.e. I loved it, you hated it, etc., so you know the rule, “Your Mileage May Vary” …
Never a replacement for doing tests yourself, BUT, if your tastes ARE similar to mine, then maybe, I can save you some time, and money.
It is hard to review flavors IMO, as I have had some TERRIBLE flavors. Knew it mixing them up, BUT, had to try them, and try to be fair none the less. Have had some GREAT flavors, but were not even close to their namesake, and had to treat them accordingly. Some, are easy to review, explain, etc., but many others defy explanation, and are actually very HARD to describe/review. With all of the cost, time, and difficulties, it can be a chore @fidalgo_vapes.
You do a great job…was just curious
I appreciate it @fidalgo_vapes, means a lot. As typical with most things, you can ALWAYS do MORE. I could mix up 10 testers PER tester, and varying percentages, even increase my typical 1-2 week steep to a month or greater, but for any/all of the gains therein, they just weren’t worth it for me. If I find one (very seldom, but it’s happened), wherein it’s at or past it’s ceiling, or another member knows it was mixed too high, I will re-mix a flavor.
I’ve seen some SFT’ers that offer possible pairings, throat hit/harshness, even coil gunking darkness scale ratings, but for me, I chose to keep it simple, focused, and as accurate and consistent as I could.
As of this writing, I’m vape training through my Chemno Grape tester, and it’s great. Getting my initial reactions down, mid vape, and final thoughts. Then I have to figure out HOW to make it make SENSE to everyone else LOL.
Grape (Chemnovatic) 9% (6-27-20) – Holy grape punch to the face !!! See where I’m going with this one ?? Ok, after using many grapes in my DIY time, it became clear that there were really only two (maybe three) kinds of grapes. Authentic, Candied/Soda, and perhaps a wine. What you are looking for in a grape will greatly influence which will be right for you. This one had me looking across the table for Radar O’reilly, because it was almost completely spot on for a Grape Nehi soda. Now, if you are looking for a more natural/authentic grape, this one may not be for you. Personally I loved this one. I can lean either way, if it’s a great authentic, great, if it’s a great grape soda, great. This one is almost perfect (struggling to find takeoffs). My current go to (as others have done) is TPA’s grape juice, and FW’s grape soda, as my grape base, but even that pairing wasn’t perfect. Granted this one was mixed @ 9%, it showed NO signs of hitting the ceiling, and was gape-a-licious at this testing weight. Sweetness was mid level, and it did favor a grape nehi soda, hands down. No carbonation, no fizz, but very damned close. Because it leaned heavily towards a grape soda, I didn’t get any subtle nuances like the skin, or sparkling bright top notes, but it literally rolls over you like a giant grape steam roller at this percentage. For my tastes, it was about a perfect incarnation, as could be had. If I was forced to split it, soda vs. natural, I’d have to leave it at 75% soda, 25% natural for comparison. For my grape tastes, and needs, I couldn’t ask for more, from a single flavor. 10/10.
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Natbone the one thing that we must keep in mind is that these flavors are being used at 9pct for grape that is insane pct…Nothing against Sessions reviews , but with the constant argument of price that we hear against flavors like MF and even FLV these Chemnovatic will get up there in $$$ after replacing over and over…
Again let me thank Sessions bc what he does is so valuable to the community and he does it so well
As always, great descriptions. I am always amazed at his great ability to define flavors. Thank you very much for sharing your work. Let’s see if I learn something …
but with the constant argument of price that we hear against flavors like MF and even FLV these Chemnovatic will get up there in $$$ after replacing over and over…
After I get these all done @fidalgo_vapes, I’ll try and run up a comparison price chart again, comparing all the big names, just for comparison. Price DOES matter, BUT, let’s not forget what we’re talking about here, FLAVORS, and if some of them are great flavors, spending wont be an issue.
It’s a valid point. I, for one, really enjoy everyone’s flavors reviews. I also love all the food porn shows as well.
BUT, let’s not forget what we’re talking about here, FLAVORS, and if some of them are great flavors, spending wont be an issue.
That is where my journey is at. If a flavor is irreplaceable then it’s worth it. I still have mixes steeping at adapted higher percents and fingered are crossed. But yeah, not sure if these will be irreplaceable for me and the ADV journey.
Watermelon (Chemnovatic) 7% (6-27-20) – Let me share my FIRST thoughts on this one, out of the gate. “Wow, this is a great COTTON CANDY, with a little watermelon on the top”. Those were my FIRSTEST first thoughts, and continued vaping did not change that. It’s actually a GREAT cotton candy with a hint of WM. At no point, at this percentage, did I get an overwhelming “Wow, this is a watermelon” during the entire tester. There IS watermelon in there, but it’s almost just on the top of the vape, not throughout the bottom and body of it. Sweetness was mid level, and the WM that I did get floating around on the top was good, very light, airy, with some red, white, and maybe rhind in there. The main body however just really tasted like a CC to me. Nothing off-putting, or floral at this weight, and the WM element was very relaxed. If I had to rate this as a CC, I’d give it a 10/10 without question, but as a WM, I’d have to go low, as is the sad case in reviewing flavors. I’ll be charitable and leave it at 5/10 as a WM, but just remember, if you’re looking for a cotton candy wanna be, with a hint of wm this might be a winner for you. I’ll close this by stating, that even though it didn’t WOW me as a WM, I AM going to finish the tank.
Yes I respect the hell out of anyone who writes flavor nites and shares them …My notes are so mumble jumble only I can understand them and its hard for me to describe what im saying lol…
Yeah, if a flavor is exactly what your after then the strength of the concentrate is not as important to me. Companies like Molinberry bug me a little though. They charge like flavoring companies who work well in the 1 to 2% range but MB generally need higher, like between 3 to 5% or more, not a good value, they should charge less. That said I have had to buy large bottles of some MB flavors but damn, some are around $26 for a 120ml.