Coronavirus

(Washington Post, April 22, 2020):

A mysterious blood-clotting complication is killing coronavirus patients -
Once thought a relatively straightforward respiratory virus,
covid-19 is proving to be much more frightening

Despite being put on anticoagulants, the patient was still developing clots. A second said she’d seen something similar. And a third. Soon, every person on the text chat had reported the same thing. … “It was in as many as 20, 30 or 40 percent of their patients.”

increasingly convinced covid-19 attacks not only the lungs, but also the kidneys, heart, intestines, liver and brain. … Many doctors also are reporting bizarre, unsettling cases that don’t seem to follow any of the textbooks they’ve trained on. They describe patients with startlingly low oxygen levels - so low that they would normally be unconscious or near death - talking and swiping on their phones. Asymptomatic pregnant women suddenly in cardiac arrest. Patients who by all conventional measures seem to have mild disease deteriorating within minutes and dying at home.

Lewis Kaplan, a University of Pennsylvania physician and head of the Society of Critical Care Medicine, said every year doctors treat people with clotting complications, from those with cancer to victims of severe trauma, “and they don’t clot like this.” “The problem we are having is that while we understand that there is a clot, we don’t yet understand why there is a clot,” Kaplan said. “We don’t know. And therefore, we are scared.”

When they opened up some deceased patients’ lungs, they expected to find evidence of pneumonia and damage to the tiny air sacs that exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide between the lungs and the bloodstream. Instead, they found tiny clots all over. … Although there was no consensus on the biology of why this was happening and what could be done about it, many came to believe the clots might be responsible for a significant share of U.S. deaths from covid-19 - possibly explaining why so many people are dying at home.

Scientists call this “hemostatic derangement.” In math, a derangement is a permutation in which no element is in its original position. … Harlan Krumholz, a cardiac specialist at the Yale-New Haven Hospital Center, said no one knows whether blood complications are a result of a direct assault on blood vessels or a hyperactive inflammatory response to the virus by the patient’s immune system.

“One of the theories is that once the body is so engaged in a fight against an invader, the body starts consuming the clotting factors, which can result in either blood clots or bleeding. In Ebola, the balance was more toward bleeding. In covid-19, it’s more blood clots,” he said. …Early data from China on a sample of 183 patients showed more than 70 percent of patients who died of covid-19 had small clots develop throughout their bloodstream. Although acute respiratory distress syndrome still appears to be the leading cause of death in covid-19 patients, blood complications are not far behind, said Behnood Bikdeli, a fourth-year fellow at Columbia University Irving Medical Center, who helped anchor a paper about the blood clots in the Journal of The American College of Cardiology. “My guess is it’s one of the top three causes of demise and deterioration in covid-19 patients,” he said.

Not sure where to put this… move it if needed…

Now this…

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/mcconnell-says-he-favors-allowing-states-to-declare-bankruptcy

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I would recommend that we should start with Moscow Mitch’s very own homeland state of Kentucky. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Free Art for these times:

Source: https://www.parentmap.com/article/amplifier-seattle-free-inspiring-art-posters

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The question is… Did C19 start showing it’s presence since Sept 2019?

From past news It really looks like it was here long ago. Kinda convenent that we can’t test everyone, or test at least 1 whole state like NY, to really see if we were lied too, and if most of the danger has passed already or not. Like some experts are starting to believe.

Vaping illness or the worse C19 cases showing up in Sept 2019?

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/09/18/760635457/the-vaping-illness-outbreak-what-we-know-so-far

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That’s quite a conceptual leap. The NPR story was generated fairly early with respect to very much in the way of forensic tissue analysis - and may contain some regurgitated information that has not held over time. One source (that I trust) has provided some specific information surrounding the Mayo Clinic study’s autopsy findings is Dr Michael Siegel’s excellent “Tobacco Analysis” blog (October 3, 2019):

I am not a radiologist - but it may be that the radiological imaging differs (between COVID-19 and alleged to be “vaping-related/caused” pulmonary) significantly. It is common to measure various fractions of different types of Immunoglobulins, which has been done surrounding COVID-19. Even without an antigen test in place, various signatures will often exists typifying a particular pathogenic infection and/or “disease” state. If you are interesting in bolstering your hypothesis, I may have some useful internet bookmarks helpful for those purposes. The burden, of course, is on the “protagonist”.

Mew…:scream_cat:

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Is New York getting a bad rap for being the epicenter of CV?
So, I Gotta Wonder if those cats went to mardi gras this year?


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Can’t you imagine them in a large crowd watching a parade with thousands of other drunk cats?

snicker

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Bat Scratch Fever ?

Found a related hot new “conspiracy theory” - but it looks like they “passed” on learning how to spell:

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(STAT, April 20, 2020):

Everything we know about coronavirus immunity and antibodies - and plenty we still don’t

Studies are emerging into animal hosts - so far the virus has been detected in a few ferrets, cats, tigers and dogs. No animal deaths have yet been reported, and we don’t know if animals can transmit back to humans.

16 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Conspiracy theories] Was it a accident or planned? Hunan

Implementing social distancing… :smirk_cat:

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Gov. Cuomo on opening NY etc

Now, I don’t particularly like the guy - and he’s been an idiot wrt vaping. But he’s calm and articulate and he never once bragged about how tremendous a job he’s done :stuck_out_tongue:

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The team says it is not advocating that anyone start smoking because cigarettes have fatal health risks.

No mention of vaping though, unfortunately. But gird your loins for the coming run on nicotine!

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“The Virus Is Still Out There”: Infectious Disease Expert Warns Against Reopening States Too Soon

She tested positive and her and her Family recovered

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@Mew @everyone sorry for making light with my mardi gras joke above, there is no evidence there were no drunk cats at mardi gras watching parades.
after the cats were found to be infected during the us presidents corona-virus task force press brief, Dr Fauchi said (falsely) something like “there is no evidence that the virus can be transmitted from a cat to a human” but I found this interesting because it possibly spread from a animal to a human at the start. he did not say -there is no evidence the virus will not spread from an animal to a human-. either way a statement like this is completely false (IMO).

but also i’d like to point out CNN was also wrong as the Bronx zoo cats i think had CV weeks earlier. Published April 6, 2020 Updated April 7, 2020:

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These expert types never cease to amaze me with their many words.

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us president is the worst at it even reading each of his statements.

i wonder if there is a study using live virus immunization? i am still of the opinion it may only be lethal when inhaled, but i am not sure if it could pass from the bloodstream into the lung tissue.

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