Coronavirus

Not sure if anyone has clicked on the link Squirrel posted but as promised, it was heavy reading indeed. I must admit I couldn’t get through it all but from what I did manage to read, my understanding is that they admit that immunity wanes (after primary vaccination is administered) across all vaccine platforms (mRNA, vector-based and inactivated virus vaccines).

My problem with all this is basically … what is the point of getting vaccinated if this vaccine doesn’t necessarily protect you from contracting C19 as a true vaccine should?

Besides the fact that this study is completely over my head in its use of medical terminology, my personal viewpoint is that these so-called vaccines are by definition, not vaccines. Trusting my “gut instinct” has served me well so far and my gut tells me not to put unnecessary mRNA technology (that still has not been fully tested) into this sacred temple someone or something has given me. On a simplistic level, my body is the only one I have and I’m just not prepared to risk it.

Regardless, I thank Squirrel for taking the effort to link that study as I’m sure it came with good intentions. Cheers :peace_symbol:

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I’ll ADD to that @Dardy. The goal posts have been moving QUITE a bit. ALL kinds of promises, statements as matters of fact, only to be changed, reduced, and almost reversed as time wore on.

Let’s not even talk about the injuries (mysterious sudden deaths) etc.

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I am all for not taking the vaxx, it is your body and your choice (unlike those pushing abortion, there is a 3rd party to think of that is more than just a bunch of cells), especially if you are young and healthy. I resent Fauci, Big P, Big G and the CDC for pushing all these mandates on us while they made Billions, but the vaxx DID help reduce the severity somewhat to give the elderly and immunocompromised a fighting chance. My FIL and Grand-FIL both were unvaxxed and died from C-19. They chose not to take the risk and they paid for their choice. Yes, the entire myriad of control has been truly disgusting and it has been handled so poorly.

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Did you see clips of the Grammy Awards, where the deviled enactment dressed singers and dancers sang “Unholy” with so called semen squirted in the mouths? THAT was funded by Pfizer.

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I haven’t watched it in years, and so have an increasing majority. I did see images, and it seems like they’re just doing it as they want now.

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I didn’t watch the Grammy Awards per se, I DO watch a lot of political news and they showed a few clips of that crude event.

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Well, I only tend to have malicious tendencies towards unwelcome esoteric guests. Other than that I’m benevolent, except if free booze is no longer offered.

How the immune system operates is not a simple game of take this pill and you are instantly safe: Your body stores records of known threats and creates weapons to attack them. Sadly, viruses, bacteria, and giruses et al love mutating into better killers. So, some vaccines need perennial updates - the annually updated flu vaccination in the UK being poster boy of this.

My personal favourite teaching tool can explain it in a fun way:

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My primary Dr offered me the flu shot at my last appointment. I refused. The wife talked me into taking a flu shot almost a decade ago. I know it’s a dead form of the flu but it’s the only year I have had the flu in the last 20 years.

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@rcleven I am of the exact same mind. I wonder if they call the flu shot a vaccine ??

vaccine

văk-sēn′, văk′sēn″

noun

  1. A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a portion of the pathogen’s structure that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection.
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Never been vaccinated since I was a kid. Never interested in ‘em to be quite frank. Never saw the need. Figured I’d just deal with the flu the best I could if I ever got it. Hand on heart, based on symptoms, I’ve never had the flu in all the time I’ve been inhaling and exhaling on this planet. And no, I’m not a hermit :grin:.

This is why I don’t consider the C19 “vaccine” an actual vaccine. Does that mean that no-one in the world is actually vaccinated against C19? :thinking: :wink: .

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I didn’t want to get vaccinated due to my distrust of how quickly this ‘miracle’ was created and held out for as long as I could. Unfortunately I was placed in a position of no jab no job and obviously had to prove it too.
I appreciate the worst is (probably) behind us now but I find it amazing and contradictory how attitudes have changed. It doesn’t seem to matter now if you’ve been vaccinated or not and there’s little to no reporting of daily infections anymore. Let it rip was the terminology used in Australia.
My wife and I and both children have had three jabs but as I now have a choice I’ve not had the fourth and am not getting the fifth either. It could possibly be the case that without mass vaccination a lot more people would have died and we wouldn’t be living an almost normal life now but I’m no doctor so I’m not going to make that statement.
Out of us four it’s only my 23 year old son who hasn’t caught it.

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Exactly …

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Yeah mate, I feel for ya. Everyone I know who took the jabs (and I mean everyone), did so to keep a roof over their family’s heads and to feed their children. I consider what was done to them, and more importantly how it was done, as absolutely unforgivable. All trust gone.

Early on I tried to convince them not to get it but I quickly realised that I was on a hiding to nothing, plus you can only stick your nose in their personal business so far. I accepted that I had no right to try and force the issue, it was their life and not mine. I’m not one of those who will tell them “I told you so” as that’s not my way. Best I can do is be there for them (and you too) if and when it’s needed. Looking into their eyes, knowing what has happened, still makes me sad to this day. Hang in there brother… :muscle:

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I’m retired and haven’t worked since I was 62. Be 70 next month. Got the original COVID-19 early in 2020 from my wife who was considered a essential worker and caught it on her job. Ended up with double pneumonia in both lungs. I recovered from the pneumonia after a trip to the emergency room and IV drip of antibiotics and a week of antibiotics in pill form. Got the Moderna vax as soon as it became available because it wasn’t widely available at the time. After being vaxed my primary doctor had me tested for resistance and came back with high resistance to the original COVID-19. Don’t know if it was having COVID or the shots. In the following two years have not caught it again and have been around people who have had it. Never had an inkling to get a booster.
Remember the vax was marketed to older and immune deficiency’s. Not to everyone. Simple science will tell you a virus will evolve.

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Glad you pulled through @rcleven. The original strain(s) were QUITE different than the ones floating around now.

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The problem with the vax’s is too many people got it. It would have been contained sooner if it wasn’t widely used by everyone. If it was used as marketed we would have been over this virus much sooner. For all the doctors and research people told us when not censored told us.

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https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1629717230769381377

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On Watters World tonight, there was an interesting segment with Dr. Andrew Huff, a former D.O.E. scientist that was talking about a Gain of Function project being done where the AIDs virus was being incorporated into the Sars virus at one of the Bio Medical centers just a few days before the Ukraine/Russia war broke out. I didn’t get the whole segment because we had another snow storm and the power went out JUST THEN, so I have to wait until I see it posted on FB. If you ever come across a link, please let me know.

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Don’t be ridiculous, that’s a conspiracy theory!

Here’s another one
The Lockdown Files

https://archive.is/Dpe4L

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