my bud Cash, live on facebook, getting covered in vape… the smoker he is!! 
Sad tho… lots of musicians are out of live performances but live on fb might be even better! maybe…
I need to clean my screen… wow… lol… 
From tomorrow, most shops is forced to lock down in Denmark , bars, discotheques, shopping centers, restaurants etc.
Only most important shops must be open, for people to survive, rest is closed from tomorrow.
Parties will be illegal to.
Medical shops will come outside where people wait to come in, and tell u to come into the shop with a 2 meter distance and buy what u need, but only 1 piece of each.
Up to 10+ people in groups is illegal to.
My personal opinion is, do it like Italy… And I think it will come soon.
In around 1 week the virus will peak here 
Be safe, Big…
Continuation from here
WHO is saying all the time - do more testings, testings, testings!
We can see how efficient S.Korea (and China) are with lots and lots of testings. S. Korea has done more testings than all other countries combined except China; testings are available everywhere. The results are obvious – fast decline of spreading and new cases, while Europe has chosen for no testing unless a severe condition.
Compare the numbers between S Korea and Italy (equal size, both had first infections found one month ago, both had same number of cases one week ago).
To the numbers. You might be surprised how much testers & testing actually cost. Several companies are providing testers and there surely shouldn’t be a shortage. Sorry for my totally ignorant thinking, but if the monster was crawling in a country slowly (well, more than a month at least), you would expect governments first reaction would be to get enough testers since those are so extremely cheap.
I mean, one tester costs, take a breath, in average 2.50€ (made in Germany by a private company, not government; short extract in English is here). At this price, wouldn’t it make sense that a country buys them enough for at least 5% of the population (and be prepared to buy more later if needed)? I mean, the cost for a country with 50 Mio people would cost a lousy 6.25M€ right? That’s probably the same price they spend on sugar served by coffee or tea every month, while here the most contagious disease in our lifetime is coming.
I surely don’t believe in shortage of testers as this one single company had produced testers for more than 4M people so far (while total number of testers used in Europe until this week was under 150,000; their capacities are more than we need and this is only one company; many countries with advanced research capabilities developed their own testers).
Then we have testings. The same producer says the total price in average should be up to 10€ at most (including all the labor work; he’s saying he personally would be doing testings for this price). I have no idea how much it costs EU governments at the end since it’s free for us here (Japanese are doing testings for 150€ with 30% of that paid by people).
And you don’t need sci-fi labs for this or special trainings, every average equipped lab can do them; even small clinics in towns with 10k people are doing testings here, so why aren’t they doing them more?.
So why are they preventing testings that are proven to be very efficient by all data? Compare the costs of testings for the country that would limit further spreading (and allow faster healing) with the costs of prolonging this isolation and economic lockdown… Koreans and Chinese showed high efficiency and it seems they’ll get their country at full speed again soon, while here it seems the life could stop until the Autumn.
Is there any reasonable explanation for why they are preventing lots of testings? The price is surely not; the shortage of testers is not, the labs/equipment is not, the lack staff is not, the fear of further spreading disease in hospitals is not (since people can leave testers outside like in Korea). It is very weird and mind boggling. Any idea why?
EDIT: the same shit is happening in the USA too (and now testing kits contamination). Should we buy the story that this disease came out totally unexpected and noone was prepared (while we all were reading for more than a decade that this will appear with a high certainty and we even had one month advantage)? Noone prepared and now testings denied? Weird.
Perhaps I didn’t elucidate clearly. Conservatism cannot exist without the presence of moral values. Poverty is the bane of morality. When a self-appointed ‘elite class’ subjects the underclasses to abject poverty specifically so that they can exist in a moral vacuum then conservatism as a concept literally cannot exist and furthermore, the idea of moderation would itself be cause enough for alarm to some people. Western society is based upon feminized militarism which is inherently unstable and less efficient and productive than total anarchy. Right wing values literally cannot exist in the environments you have created and you are all in fact, godless heathens who should perish. That’s why people freak out and buy pounds of toilet paper when a ‘crisis’ approaches, not because it’s actually going to happen, but because they deserve to have something phenomenally bad happen. lol.
Palm Springs is in semi lockdown. Only essential depts/companies are to be open for business as of tomorrow 7AM. There is an order to shelter in place and we and all other social services are being told to work from home and absolutely no face-to-face client meetings. The stores are pretty much depleted. Don’t go to Walmart unless you want to buy metal shelving. The few stores that have anything are having items ripped out of their hands or swiped out of their carts. People who stocked up on hand cleaner and TP are now selling it for outrageous prices. The elderly in nursing homes aren’t allowed the only thing that makes them happy…visitors.
None of this is new to most people around the world, but it’s the first time I’m seeing it first hand. I’m not afraid to say that I’m afraid. Shitless afraid. A little because of the virus, a lot more because of idiotic behavior of my fellow humans and a ton because of the government.
Fuck those guys. Listen to doctors, listen to nurses and scientists. Do what they say because this is real.
And do something positive for your community. That’s where it all starts. Retain your humanity and help someone else in anyway you can. Even if it’s just listening.
Be well, be safe.
Scared of Corona ??? Go to walmart and fight with people you dont know THE WORLD HAS LOSTBTHER FUCKING MINDS …makes sense to be at Wal-Mart
This is the type of shit that dooms day people have waited for …I hate Guns but if things dont get better ill be getting mine from my Cousins house…I just got laid off as of Sunday will be my last Full check , the INN i have put money , and sweat into ( minority partner ) very minority is closing doors …All at the hands of the Government So the Govt should pay our bills , they should forgive all debt from March until things are back to Normal
That’s an interesting take, but it doesn’t give the whole picture.
I just had a play around with Excel and some numbers. Let’s say that the mortality rate of COVID-19 is 1% and assume an incubation time of 10 days and 10 days for death to occur (a total of 20 days delay) - then work your way backwards this is how South Korea looks:
Very large “shadow number” - meaning a LOT more are infected than has been tested.
Italy on the other hand reveals a HUUUUUUUUGE shadow number. So big that you almost can’t see it on a graph:
Now it’s only guesswork of course, but it’s kind of scary.
If mortality rate is 1% then Italy would have had 215,800 infected as of Feb 25th
Naturally I’ve no idea if any of this is anywhere near correct
Scary shit. Based on total deaths there were 798,000 infected as of Feb 25th.
Graph for the US:
I am not scared, @fidalgo_vapes… but I worry about my family and friends.
Apparently my son who is still a student in the country school district, as a special needs kid… is too old for 99.9% of the restaurants here.They are trying to say 18 yrs old and younger qualify for free food… dealing with that. He has one place tomorrow we will be heading to, and it’s a place I know he will be welcome at. Check! It’s my friends both local and online that I worry over. More than a few fall in the “60’s and over” bracket… that I am good friends with. This virus kills… Make no mistake about it.
I wish it would hurry up and go away…
With Every single thing I have read… we are looking at a year for that to happen. Sure, it will slow this summer, but it will be back, continuously untill it “dilutes” itself down to the common cold level. It’s going to take time, and time is not something my friends have more of…
I just hope we stay safe, help those that need it and just chill out. Life is too short for the bickering… 
btw now my brother is out of work for at least the next 3 months… so now it’s my time to support him as well… Flavors, anyone?? 
I am currently updating my graphs and text above as it was TOO inaccurate. I will re-do them all changing the delay to 20 days instead of 10 days.
EDIT: Update complete
I think but hope the USA will not be as bad… time will tell
If you get infected, avoid ibuprofen!
Go for paracetamol.
If you’re taking anti-inflammatory drugs, consult your doctor.
EDIT: This was retracted by the WHO - That said, I would rather stick with paracetamol 