you found it. Ill keep it for myself.
@anon84779643 ok I’ll ask. I’ve almost got it complete. And yes, zinc can build to a toxic level. that’s why I said drop the dose to the RDA or lower. Once the stuff is in your cells it shouldn’t take much of a maintenance dose to do it… Just a guess. not a DR.
Actually, I just happened to have that browser tab open - and copied/pasted from the deleted thread.
Personally I was told by my dr… to use vitamins A,B,C,D, and E…
Make sure to get 1 hour (or 10 min 6 times a day) of outside time…
Exercise for 30 min a day, with every other day “off”…
Eat good meals and you may skip or you might have a lower reaction to the virus…
Even healthy people can get it and they can end up with pneumonia and die. It happens.
When it is your time to “go”, nothing will ever stop it.
@Raven-Knightly
Im trying to get all the info I can. You said there was more? I need to watch it to see if this is even going to work.
You’re quite smart. Now beat me up so I can see if this might work? I’ll guinea pig myself.
I’ve got all kinds of crap wrong with me. I’ve heard you. I have and I’m sharing your stuff too.
No, (IMO) the rest was stochastic (random) neural noise. Nothing concrete, just “floobydust”.
Give this a read: (ACSH, March 22, 2020): “Chloroquine For Coronavirus? Not So Fast”
I don’t “beat people up”. Sometimes I may criticize was I consider to be fallacies and/or deceptions. My thought is that small amounts of some long-acting Benzodiazepine (Diazapam would be preferable to Klonopin) might (possibly) do your anxious psyche a world of good. These are extremely (physically) safe substances. If taken for a while regularly, one would want to slowly taper dosages back down. (However), Benzos might dampen the effects of any Dopaminergics (or similar medicines) prescribed.
(If you had not guessed as much already), PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT A DEGREED DOCTOR:
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@Raven-Knightly
This article is correct. It won’t stop the pneumonia. The Z pac probably has better luck at that. Z pak is for bacterial pneumonia. The person’s to far gone for that to work.
All I am suggesting is in healthy people to take small doses that don’t go to toxicity. What if it stops the initial entry. If it can change the curve of the infection enough. just enough from the initial point of infection long enough for the body to take over? Zinc alone doesn’t penetrate the cell wall easily. That’s why it’s effects are minor. It’s primarily outside the cell causing the Rhinovirus damage before it gets to the cell.
That’s only empirical evidence I have between me and my son over 15-20 years. It’s only partially effective with a cold but it helps. It does cut recovery time back roughly 1/3 the time a normal cold runs.
It flattens the curve of a cold.
@Raven-Knightly
I’m not saying “beat me up” in a bad way. I’m saying keep offering the counter sides to my side of the debate.
that’s info and info is knowledge. If we could flatten the curve it may stop hospitals from being overloaded. It may weaken the illness enough to be tolerable. It’s not going to stop it.
the critique you’re offering helps. It may even dispel this idea.
this isn’t a cure. at most. the best of circumstances is it flattens the curve. If this accomplishes that even… it could save lives.
Then I will reverse my stance and tell people not to try it.
Doug, I will be honest. You and me both are thoroughly unqualified to be speculating about these very poorly understood subjects. I could find you the research papers (published in China and France) that folks are having an (unwarranted) field-day over. But I suspect these documents would “snow” pretty bad (worse than the ACSH article). I would suggest that we could (easily) do more harm than good by making wild speculations. If that does not make reasonable sense, I don’t know what to tell you further:
He that had never seen a river, imagined the first he met with to be the sea.
-Montaigne
He that knows least commonly presumes most.
-Thomas Fuller
Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-Thomas Jefferson
Better to be ignorant of a matter than half know it.
-Publilius Syrus
From ignorance our comfort flows, the only wretched are the wise.
-Matthew Prior
Wisdom is prevented by ignorance, and delusion is the result.
-The Bhagavadgita
‘Tis very puzzling on the brink
Of what is called Eternity to stare,
And know no more of what is here, than there.
-Byron
However much you knock at nature’s door, she will never answer you in comprehensible words.
-Ivan Turgenev
It is only theory that makes men completely incautious.
-Bertrand Russell
To be proud of knowledge is to be blind with light.
-Benjamin Franklin
Learning, the destroyer of arrogance, begets arrogance in fools; even as light, that illuminates the eye, makes owls blind.
-Panchatantra
The utmost abstractions are the true weapons with which to control our thought of concrete fact.
-Alfred North Whitehead
The greater our knowledge increases, the greater our ignorance unfolds.
-John F. Kennedy
In expanding the field of knowledge we but increase the horizon of ignorance.
-Henry Miller
That knowledge that stops at what it does not know, is the highest knowledge.
-Chuang Tzu
The more I read, the more I mediate, and the more I acquire, the more I am enabled to affirm that I know nothing.
-Voltaire
So much has already been written about everything that you can’t find out anything about it.
-James Thurber
Knowledge is a recognition of something absent; it is a salutation, not an embrace.
-George Santayana
Some readers might (perhaps) like my 2005 Blogspot (a source of the above quotations) here.
Then, as I said, I can build a case against it then. or just delete it. Someone posted this. as you’ve just pointed out, Maybe I should see what field this guy is in.
You’ve given me a fantastic amount of hazards. btw, thank you for that, honest the dangers you have pointed out are a substantial part. You’ve stated that what they’re pedaling as hope is simply “snake oil”.
People are posting a lot of positive things about it. It’s because the government is trying to sell hope when there’s little to none for the ones that head towards the critical area. The government may be lying to keep hope with those that don’t have it. That’s causing social distancing issues. It’s also causing people to ignore the precautions.
I wear rubber gloves and a face mask. I use hand sanitizer on the gloves too (mechanic’s nitrile gloves).
I follow those precautions and try to go a step farther. Others should too.
You may very well be right.
My understanding (along with Tony Fauci’s) is that Chloroquine has (only in a small study or two) been thought to (perhaps) impede the SARS COV-2 microbial antigen in vitro (that means in a “test tube”) somewhat. Sketchy information. Not reliable at all (in anybody’s book). The road is littered with throngs of claimed effects that never panned-out in vivo (that is, when actually administered to living creatures).
Too bad that a man is dead, with wife in critical condition, from taking the Psychopath in Chief seriously.
@Raven-Knightly in vitro on money kidneys. It never made it to human trials. If someone gets the disease and gets sick, that’s going to happen. I said, maybe I should delete it.
If I actually find out it works then I will keep it to myself. The best thing I can do is tell people it’s fake and to get the equipment I have. There has to be a way to shut this disease down. ignoring the known regulations for a contact virus is deadly. Those rules are in place in hospitals for a reason. Americans need to go to the next level or we’ll be looking at 20-25% mortality rates as this thing mutates and takes advantage of protection free zones.
We could even be seeing higher rates than 25% in tight cities like NYC
It’s really possible that it’s radioactive hazmat suits (L4 protective gear) for those who can find them. then rubber raincoats or one piece suits that are made out of flat rubber stock and glue (lot of tailors and seamstress’s around).
Either one works or the other. It’s time to decide which way to point people.
Simple, gentle deep breathing exercises (with or without a long-acting Benzodiazepine) is guaranteed good for one’s “psyche”, as well as for pulmonary health. Start simple and try to enjoy the time we have!
who needs breathing exercises on the higher strength’s stuff of that catagory drug lmao!!! Lorazapam can be a great friend!!! lmao!!! I take clonazapam to sleep from the parkinson’s (my brain gets going and I cant stop. constant panic attacks
Which of the Benzo’s is short acting??? lmao
We could always drop to sched III drugs too
Diazepam (Valium) and Clonazepam (Klonopin) have a ~72 hour half-life. Lorazepam, up to ~16 hours, Alprazolam ~12 hours, Oxazepam ~8 hours, Google is your friend. Clonazepam is a powerful centrally (CNS) acting Benzo. Take what you need per Rx. Diazepam is long-acting, but less intense. Peace out !
yeah… I know some of the benzo class drugs. I just can’t remember which ones are the more potent ones.
Clonazapam doesn’t phase me that much. that’s how much adrenaline gets going.
Ketamine… It’s worth a try?
If you are taking L-Dopa (or variant derivatives), you could be dealing with side-effects from such things. Anyway, let us remember that this thread is about “Coronavirus” - not our own personal struggles. …
I’m taking a newer antagonist but yes, an L-Dopa I believe. It increases the dopamine in my brain without the suicidal side effects of being bipolar.
It’s interesting how a Zpack stops the pneumonia. with similar Tuberculous scarring of the lungs I don’t know how the people actually get up. I imagine they’ll suffer from severe COPD if they recover.
I was thinking mechanical pneumonia. That stuff can be a real monster to get rid of. Drainage tubes… Not fun.
I chose to go to the alternate route and change the direction my initial post was.