Iām moresalt and Iāve been vaping for right at 3 years. In fact I think today might even be the day I satrted. iāve done all the hardware stuff, built mods, wrap coils,etc. I recently decided that paying $0.60 per ml is nuts and started mixing my own single flavor juices. These seemed easy enough so why not attempt something less mundane. After reading this forum and spending an additional boat load of money I finally attempted my first multi-flavor mix.
I was trying to mix somethin akin to GLV Newminster 23. What I produced missed the mark somewhat. If you think of 1 well used sock, mix in the world section of the USA today thoroughly wet, anlong with say a quart of used motor oil, youād get the gist of the enticing juice to await me. Needless to say, I dumped it ratherā¦uh, quickly. Iām not discouraged though, as I just finished mixing my second batch of motor oil infusedā¦socks. Well, maybe this one wonāt be so bad. I still have hope. Its steeps as I speak. Anyway, wish me luck and I can only hope that I can become half as proficient as some of yāall.
I used the recipe from here for Newminster 23. So, I did try a āknownā recipe. Did I execute it correctly? That part is uncertain and most probably the root cause. I was certainly more attentive on my secondā¦er third attempt. Ok, I admit itā¦on the second attempt I made a bonehead mistake which Iād rather just learn the lesson and move on. The lesson? keep only those flavors which belong in this recipe at hand.
I wasnāt really looking for help, although I do appreciate the offer. Now, to figure out how to post this recipe. it was adapted from a recipe from Vipod just to get the correct values for 36mg nic base as opposed to 100mg nic.
OK, hereās your recipe. That is if you did not change the desired Nicotine Value. My thoughts after looking at the recipeā¦
1: 25.5% flavor is a bit too much
2: The choice of flavors is lacking. TPA tobaccos are not too good in my opinion. I have this one and do not like it. TPA Brandy is rated well. TPA Blackberry on the other hand has a poor rating and I heard people here on ELR say itās not very good. Using EM or Ethyl Maltol or Cotton Candy (all the same) is a no no since it will mute other flavors. Most of us use Marshmallow instead.
3: Tobaccos need at least a 2 week steep but 1 full month would be better. If you are blending this recipe and not steeping then trying it right away then it surely will not taste good.
To talk to someone with a lot of experience blending tobacco flavors and who knows the better tobacco concentrates talk to @Kinnikinnick ā¦ Also check out this threadā¦
Hope there something you can use here. Good luckā¦
I hoped it would get more attention from inexperienced mixers and guide them to better flavor purchases and research. Far too many new mixer load up on TPA and hope for a good outcome. This road get traveled much too often.
Well, you started your DIY journey off in the proper manner with doing single flavor mixes! Itās good to experience exactly what each flavor tastes like by itself.
Most folks will tell you to explore a flavor, in single flavor mixes, at varying percentages to see how much or little to use in a mix. Youāll hear this a thousand timesā¦ātaste is subjectiveā. Whatās great for you at 8% may taste ghastly to me at 2%. So, take following recipes of others with a grain of salt, until you figure out what each flavors percentage is good for you.
As far as what vendors flavor to purchase, every vendor makes some flavors that some folks love and some folks wouldnāt give to their worst enemy! You might want to take a gander at this thread as well:
Again, there might actually be some flavors here that some folks love, but, hey, taste is subjective!
On a side note, you donāt have to spend a fortune on flavors; Iāve never paid more than $4.50 for a 10ml bottle of flavoring. You can DIY your own juice and not break the bank! There are plenty of tasty flavorings out there for well under $4.
Thanks, that does help. Yup, thatās the oneā¦adapted from a recipe from @Vipod, as I said earlier. However, it has raised more questions.
How do you post this recipe in such a nice format. I donāt see the ācopy asā¦ā Selection under the blue wrench like the howto says. Maybe 'cause Iām on a ipad?
The flavor percentages were as in the original recipe and my first impression was also that the percentages were high but then again Iām a noob so what do I know. But to the questionā¦do you use marshmellow at the same percentages as EM generally?
Is EM alway verboten? Or is that just a general rule of thumbā¦use marshmellow first and if that didnāt cut itā¦ Or maybe I should just dump the EM altogether?
I think that subsequent attempts I used the FA blackberry & FA Brandy, but still used EM. And Inawera turkish tobaccoā¦I know! That didnāt work. Letās change a dozen or more things so we have no idea why this one worked.
Iām a retired software engineer so I should know better to change 1 thing at a time. Doesnāt mean I do it all the timeā¦er, ever.
@Pro_Vapes, thanks. I had not seen that thread yet and I will certainly check it out. My particular approach was to look at various recipes and select flavors from the vendors of those recipes. At the moment I have blackberry from 4 different vendors, TPA, LA, CAP, & FA. I did that with a few other flavors as well. Iād be willing to bet that this thread would have saved some money, but what the heckā¦canāt take it with me.
@Kinnikinnick, thanks. One mistake that I made was not going far enough with the single flavors, maybe. And I probably didnāt steep this one long enough althoughā¦no, probably not long enough. I only let it sit a week. I learned the benefits of steeping when I first started vaping 3yrs ago. I bought an RY4 and it tasted like dirt. 2 months later it was like wow, this is good! So, it seems that I just needed to learn that lesson again. I promise, I am trainableā¦just ask my wifeā¦no, on second thought better not.
Unfortunately the only way to get the complete recipe is to do a screen capture. I run Firefox and for the Screen Capture I use the plugin Nimbus Screenshot. I then post the pic. If only the flavors will do then you click the blue wrench and then Copy as HTML (text). You then paste it in your commentā¦
I use Marshmallow with a usual limit of 2% so if the recipe calls for up to 2% then yes, that is what I would do. Be aware that people are usually trying to sweeten when they use EM. Marshmallow gives a very nice mouth feel but only sweetens a little. If you like a lot of sweet you would have to go elsewhere. Also be aware that sometimes people use EM to purposely tone down strong flavors but Iām guessing you would see very little of that here.
EM has itās place, but you need to be shooting for a Cotton Candy flavor of some sort if you want to use it. Donāt use it for sweetening. Some people use caramel, sucralose, stevia. and stuff like that. I personally feel the less use of sweeteners the better. People complain of after taste with stevia or sucralose and to top it off any sweet flavor you might use to make your mix a little sweeter will contain EM or at least Maltol in it including marshmallow. The last thing you want to do is add more EMā¦
Sucralose is splenda, not EM. Em is Cotton Candy though. EM does mute flavor. I honestly donāt know the effects on juice with sucralose since I have never used it. Sorryā¦
