i know he didnt make it up
im so happy you chimed in , you have my fullest respect keep doing you , you get it
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I subscribe to DoD for several reasonsā¦ the Magazine, Flavour Book and Recipes are all fantastic and worth more than the paltry $3/month. But the main reason I subscribe is to support Wayne in his efforts. His knowledge, passion and enthusiasm inspires many people (especially me), mostly for free. Heās a good bloke.
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You did the right thing asking for others experiences of the site, we all like to know the ins and outs before we pay out for something 
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What can you get on DIY or DIE that isnāt here? Better yet, let me ask it this way.
I donāt need flavor notes beyond whatās on ELR
I donāt need instructions how to mix.
I donāt need a calculator to tell me what plus what plus what equals 100.
I donāt need videos to show me anything.
So aside from getting one manās opinion on all things DIY, what else is there at DIY or DIE that I canāt find here? Sell me.
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I canāt sell you lol, but I can tell you thisā¦
I do
I still benefit from this
I still do and love watching them, why does a person that bakes regularly still watch cooking programmes? Iām genuinely interested in watching someone better than me mix, I havenāt been doing it that long so Iām way down the ladder, Iām not you dude, If I was, I probably wouldnāt pay either.
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Iām no guru either. And I honestly was only asking for informationās sake since Iām not a subscriber. I suppose that as for video there are few out there to choose from, and I would suspect fewer on Wayneās level.
Iāve mixed some of his juices, loved a couple, liked a couple, but nothing there strikes me as earth moving which has always had me wonderingā¦whatās with the popularity? The only thing Iāve ever come up with is Wayne must be a tremendous self-promoter and masterful at social media. That would certainly explain the level of interest, especially when so many folks these days take to YouTube first before trying something theyāve never done. Hell thatās why I re-tiled my bathroom floor rather than paying someone. Found a video.
Iāve thought about subscribing just out of curiosity. Believe me itās not the money or what I would expect to get for it. Even if it was 10x what he charges. Itās just Iām so convinced that everything I need to know is right here, and from hundreds of other minds, not just one.
Thanks for your reply though. I do appreciate it. 
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at the end of the day you like what you like, I find him likeable, funny, informative, heās just a nice guy whoās reached the next level, making a living out of it, he certainly putās the hours in to his recipes thatās for sure, and I only like some of his recipes I agree there, I did like Rhodanite when I first tried it but it didnāt have longevity, I havenāt had it since, his cereal milk is always on rotation though.
Heās become a personality, I wonāt say celebrity, within the Vaping world, and he funds what he does by people subscribing, Iād like to keep on seeing what he comes up with therefore I donāt mind paying a couple of quid for that.
and for the record, you may not be a guru lol, but Iāve seen your recipes and I really donāt think youād benefit from subscribing, youāre a good mixer dude.
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I guess for some of us ELR members, we came up old school mixingā¦ sharing info freely. I know the way I came up DIYing I had to put in my own work and if I needed info I had the ELR community to turn to. Like some of you I tried some of the DoD recipes and was mildly to negatively impressed. Not to say they arenāt good, they just didnāt fit the profile I prefer. Defining your favorite flavor profile will go a long way to building a Flavor Stash that fits you best and save you from waste.
As some of you know Iām not a big fan of low concentrated flavors. A lot of them I just canāt taste or theyāre a bit too mild or too far off center for me. So when I see recipes thatās mostly TPA, CAP or FW, I tend to shy away from them.
DoD would interest me more if it was more involved with the Super Concentrates. This list below are the prime flavors I like to mix, with a compliment of a few other flavors. So for me to try and follow DoD would be a step in the wrong direction.
As you can see Iām a MF nut, but IMO these are the best and gives the flavor I need to enjoy vaping.
Banana (MF)
Blackberry (MF)*****
Blueberry (MF)****
Butterscotch (MF)
Cantaloupe (MF)*****
Caramel (MF)
Dark Chocolate (MF)*****
Golden Apple (MF)
Grape (MF)*****
Green Apple (MF)*****
Hazelnut (MF)
Honeydew Melon (MF)*****
Lemon (MF)*****
Mango (MF)****
Orange (MF)*****
Passion Fruit (MF)
Peach (MF)*****
Pear (MF)
Pineapple (MF)
Plum (MF)*****
Strawberry (MF)****
Vanilla (MF)*****
Watermelon (MF)*****
Wild Raspberry (MF)*****
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I suspect a lot of people will watch Wayne for his personality as much as his content.
If your a likeable person on YouTube with great content, people will follow you and listen to you religiously, you become a ābit of a celebrityā although Wayne will and has stated his ājust a guy that loves DIYā which is a great attitude to have and imo aides in success.
From what I see of DIY or DIE membership you get personal interaction / experience with Wayne and his team, for some itās easier then trawling through posts and asking questions on forums. One central āhubā if you like.
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for me a premium juice is supposed the be a juice that you taste the different flavors from the inhale to the exhale and this is what wayne tries to accomplish and has done well at , his SVBICC and boardwalk do that for sure plus hes very current with issues i enjoy his commentary he actuly makes me lol and smh while listening to him his and although some dont need his content there are alot of new people who do , there are no rules or ways of coming up the diy ladder so if 3 bucks a month help save a person tons of money and time then it is worth every penny or just to support a guy who has a huge amount of knowledge and loves diy and takes the time to put his stuff out there in a fun way i dont think all his recipes are that great but i dont think philip rockes are all great either but wayne does know his stuff and has put out atbleast in my opinion a hand full of adv
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I think that has a lot to do with it.Unlike the majority he doesnāt seem to have the over inflated ego that is so common.
The part I find most disturbing is the haters all say the same thing ,
" I tried his xxxx mix and it was mediocre at best" ! I guess they have to bring everyone else down in order for them to get a little recognition? I donāt know but itās just pathetic to see people act that way.Why is it so hard to be happy for someone who finds a little success?
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I think it all boils down to envy. The haters hate since they themselves canāt do what he does and therefore feel the need to belittle whatever he does.
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I am going to toss this out here, and yaāll know Iām no voice of authority (ask my wife). I was in the Navy for 20 years, about 2 or 3 years after I had gotten out I joined an organization called the Fleet Reserve, it meets monthly at a VFW or something (the organization moved from where it use to be, but I havenāt been to one of itās meetings in 10 years)ā¦ but I still pay dues to it. 4 or 5 old sailors meet one a month, say the Pledge of Allegiance, talk briefly about new laws concerning the VA then part ways. But I still pay my dues for those guys, maybe one day Iāll have the time to attend a meeting āshrugsā.
If I wanted to, I could also join the VFW and/or the American Legion.
Yeah, I know none of this has anything to do with vaping, but it does have to do with the ideal of people having to choose one location over another, to me it makes no sense.
I highly encourage people to join @Wayne_Walker and his site if that is something they may be interested in. No Iām not a member of it, but I have thought about joining on or off. And if I did join his site, I would hope (hope isnāt the word Iām looking for, but it eludes me at the moment), that members of whatever other group I was in wouldnāt be putting me down or saying āwhyā. IMHO there is no āeitherā or āorā, for the most part we are DIY, however we want and however we want to learn, or whomever we want to contribute to, whether you can get that same information elsewhere or ādonāt really need to joinā a different place. I think @Wayne_Walker puts out some good information, he encourages people to try and is selling himself, there is nothing wrong with that. It isnāt like heās spamming sites and ditching others as if he is the one and only. There isnāt anything wrong with gleaning information and being a part of more than one group. That would be like saying you can only subscribe to one youtube channel, otherwise your not being committed to that single youtube person.
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Iād just like to say Iāve ordered some DIYorDIE pistachio RY4-U concentrate and Iāll let you all know what I think when I get it next week
EDIT: I can make 193ml of it 70/30 3mg nic/100%VG for Ā£7.50!! Absolute bargain!
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Yup. Off topicā¦I see you didnāt list kiwi. 
Any reason?
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every flave ive tried is very good
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MF=Medicine Flower which is a flavor company.
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You will also find MF listed as lotus flavors at ecx.
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