E cig express

atssec97 · July 20, 2019, 1:41am

What is the proper designation for ecigexpress flavor express concentrates when inputting into your stash?
Recently purchased Lemon and Sweet Strawberry and the list appears pretty convoluted and picking the right one has me wondering! Thanks in advance!

anon44012888 · July 20, 2019, 1:44am

FE I think is the Acronym

Sprkslfly · July 20, 2019, 2:11am

Joel is correct about the Flavors Express abbreviation.

ECX is the basic abbreviation.

And of course, Signature is TFA

anon44012888 · July 20, 2019, 2:15am

TPA

anon44012888 · July 20, 2019, 2:15am

@TorturedZen SICK 'EM

Sprkslfly · July 20, 2019, 2:19am

Jus’ going by the name the company SELLS them to everyone under… =P
lol

(But yes, you’re right AFA the database goes… For the time being I Hope!)

TPA sells materials for PERFUME and OILS

(I’m still lobbying @daath to update that!)

atssec97 · July 20, 2019, 2:20am

I think I got the Lemon right! “Lemon (FE)”
There are two entries for the Sweet Strawberry and the one with the most users does not match the FE abbreviation! I chose the FE from the list so I am the odd ball I guess!
So is it FE or ECX? someone make up my mind the right way!!

Sprkslfly · July 20, 2019, 2:21am

It’s FE

TorturedZen · July 20, 2019, 2:25am

Looks like another addition for the Dupes list.

atssec97 · July 20, 2019, 2:32am

Yupe!
It’s really messing up my Juice calculator. Everytime I import a recipe I have to go and fix my Ingredients list!! Total PITA!!!

TorturedZen · July 20, 2019, 2:42am

Same here but I’m used to it.
Pray for that one day to come!

atssec97 · July 20, 2019, 2:47am

I think the Rapture will happen first!

TorturedZen · July 20, 2019, 3:14am

Haha. Wouldn’t be surprised.

Plunderdrum · July 23, 2019, 7:46pm

I thought the consensus was to use TPA to avoid people confusing TFA with FA. Was that how it came to be input as TPA, which is obviously confusing because it is so very wrong on its own?

Sprkslfly · July 23, 2019, 8:01pm

To the best of my knowledge, it came about as a result of the company name at the time. Things evolved though…

Further reading:

Capella or tpa?

One thing you may not be aware of is that that there’s kind of a ‘glitch’ that exists in terminology, due to history, and industry accomodating the shift.

TPA = The Perfumer’s Apprentice.

TFA = The Flavorer’s Apprentice.

Two seperate divisions (for some time now) of the same parent company. As you’ll notice, both are listed on the same site: perfumersapprentice.com

When you see TPA in the recipe section, it’s because (and someone can correct me if any section of my history is wrong here) it all started out with only TPA in existence. And folks started using their ‘flavorings’ in vaping, when they were originally intended for the food, perfume, and also the essential oils industries. But vaping and DIY was created by the old “Necessity is the mother of invention” bit…so, folks had to be creative, and use what was available.

So there MAY BE components in certain TPA products, that are not found in the current TFA versions (since they’re distinctly different intended uses) and are not safe for vaping; ie: anything with ‘oils’ in them, lemon oil, grapeseed oil, etc, etc.

Anyways, when you are shopping at most resellers, they’re typically listed as TFA. But when it comes time to try and find them in the recipe database on ELR, you may see many listed as TPA.

The reason I bring all this up, is not only so that you can understand the reasoning behind the ‘inaccuracy’ or inconsistency, but so that IF you happen to at some point go direct to the manufacturer, and purchase, you know the difference, and understand that you want to be on the TFA side of the website!

For example:
Peach (Natural) w/o Acetaldehyde from TPA sounds like it could be a variation of the popular vaping flavor: Peach (Juicy) Flavor except for the very important mention of “FRAGRANCE” in the (Natural) listing. Now this might not be the ideal example, but hopefully you get my intended point.

One of the things that I desperately hope for is that ELR will come to the concensus that it’s in the best interest of new users that some of the old “leftover acronyms” (TPA/TFA being the most prominent example of course) should be updated to “current standards”.

As the older crowd ( ahem more experienced veteran mixers) already know and understand the difference, because they lived through the transition.

jay210 · July 24, 2019, 9:01pm

We are all on the Dupes list.
Joel is lulling us all into a false sense of security by being kind and helpful all over the place

…oh! hang on, you mean the flavour dupes list…?