And THERE it is !!!
Nice, quick, easy, helpful. Love it.
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I’m sorry, but I scrolled through the old thread and didn’t see a post saying whether (jf) or (jungle flavors) is correct. Maybe I scrolled too fast and missed it. Usually if I’m not sure, I go with what’s used the most, but for this company, strawberry, sweet has the most recipes for (jungle flavors), while biscuit has the most under (Jf). Unless these are different companies? Whichever it is, I’ll be sure to fix my stash if necessary. Thank you!
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As a stop gap for now I would use the most used names of each flavor. Then when that flavor set get attention the names should get rolled together into the correct nomenclature.
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They are the same company. As a rule we lean towards mfr abbreviations as the identifier. Jungle Flavors should be listed as (JF).
Both are correctly listed as Strawberry, Sweet(JF) and Biscuit (JF).
Be sure you click the RECIPES column after you do the search. That will sort highest number of recipes to the top.
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There’s been sort of an “ongoing investigation” into the whole abbreviations aspect. And as a result there has been no “formal announcement”.
You have nothing to apologize for, though I appreciate your attention to detail and willingness to help the situation by wanting/trying to do your part! 
The thing is, in this particular case…
I’m not sure which company is technically older (so to speak), but JF has been ‘correct’ for Jungle Flavors for a “large” segment of the userbase.
In very close proximity though (time-wise) a wonderful “little” company called Juice Factory (Au) has continually crept into the international spotlight, and the two have simultaneously encroached the same acronym space in regards to the database.
Some flavors have been easy to identify and separate (thanks to some unique flavor naming schemes), however, there’s some basic flavors and names that are just going to be overlapping.
What I’ve been trying to do so far (while trying to consider how to approach the overall aspect for future situations) is to separate those that are unique into the full name of the corresponding company. But personally, I foresee a time coming where the individual user is going to have to choose (and reallocate their notes etc) into the properly named company, either without an abbreviation, OR with a modified abbreviation. I’m not sure yet. Nor do I know how any of this may or may not fit into whatever timeline daath may have in mind.
I’d really like to avoid everyone going in and adding their own naming convention in the meantime, as it means a smoother time setting things up for me, rather than having to play “clean up” after the fact… BUT I also acknowledge that as long as it’s an open database, there’s REALLY nothing I can do to prevent it. So it’s going to happen (to some degree) regardless.
All I can hope for is that everyone adheres to some basic common sense approaches. Put the manufacturer’s flavor name, and then brand (in parenthesis) and NOT where they bought it, or the size, or stock number, or location, or other inane information in the flavor naming line (title).
The place for all of that is in the notes (not going off on you mind you… Just addressing the general topic)!
It’s also beyond my comprehension how certain folks have been starting to list names of FINISHED ELIQUIDS IN a damned DIY FLAVOR DATABASE.
That just PISSES ME OFF! 
But I’m drifting, so I’ll stop here. 
I hope this helps answer your questions!
If not, please feel free to holler!
Rob
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Before I screw it up what is the correct entry for the old Molinberry ? Bull City has them listed as flavor name -SSA (MB). No recipes are showing up. @Ken_O_Where
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I need to add a few more
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Yeah adding SSA to the name will likely just confuse some folks.
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The confusion is in my file system. I had to move all my MB products to my SSA rack because all the new flavors are under SSA labels. Only have a couple under SSA and got to remember where they are. I’m not too good at remembering now days. LOL
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I just popped in. Am I understanding correctly that we should re-list the Molinberry brand as SSA now? Thank God I don’t have many Molinberry…I think 
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No. Both suggestions I have gotten are to list Molliberry products as MB only and not use SSA to cut confusion.
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I would disagree here, i think Iggy has added it perfectly.
We should be adding (Concentrate) to the name, because… that’s the name. Wild Strawberry (Concentrate) is the name and that ‘Concentrate’ is telling way more than various ‘Type’ or similar names at Sobucky (if anything, then that wouldn’t be needed, because ‘Type’ means nothing, while ‘Concentrate’ means something meaningful). It is a separate line and Sobucky has it listed separately.
Here’s why we shouldn’t remove concentrate out… see how this would read and how more difficult would it be to find your flavor
…and it’s not just ‘Concentrate’ the additional name that we should be writing… We should also be writing ‘Natural’ for some SSA flavors to make it properly and easy to find (while FTNF and WONF is probably not needed). See here
ATF have it properly added (imo; they write both, ‘natural’ and ‘concentrate’ since that’s the name of the flavor).
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Unfortunately weather you or i agree or disagree the naming of the flavors is set. To add one flavor different because it was bought directly from manufacturer just creates problem especially when we have to start merging things. With SSA arent they all Concentrates ? If concentrates is a different type of line within SSA entire line up then i can see that. If every flavor that comes direct from them has the word Concentrate under flavor name then no need to add.
As for WF Naturals yes 100pct they should have the Naturals name.
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Fidalgo you might want to check the website and you would get a better understanding what ‘concentrate’ means at Sobucky.
‘Naming of flavors is set’ - yes, it is set to write the whole names as they are (while you added just some random ordinary SSA, which ofc are clearly not concentrates, so those prove nothing regarding how naming is set).
Concentrates are different line of flavors, they have different use (because all these SSA flavors are ofc not primarily meant for vaping but they are producing these for other purposes, right?) and they are taken at different quantities than regulars and i can imagine some users will be searching specifically for concentrates).
No, of course not. Who said they are?
These are way more different to regular flavors than WF regulars and Naturals are and they mix differently (not to mention they have different names, with just Concentrate added to show what this is about; note that this is not just some dummy random word there such as ‘Type’). Check how Sobucky lists them and how they list other flavors…
I agree, but who said that?
This is their different line and you would see that if you open their website. Currently they launched only 23 concentrates (and yes, all these have different names than regulars, these are not doubles or same flavors). Concentrates - page 2
See how they have these flavors divided from others, just like they have divided MB flavors at the bottom.
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like i said here. Honestly i had no clue they had different lines i dont buy from SSA direct.
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Yes, these are new flavors. (AND… they ofc don’t release just concentrates now of the sudden ofc, but mostly regulars as they did always before)
@SessionDrummer Correct, 23 are there so far.
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ahhh ok they are new , That makes sense so theres gonna be double named things? Panna Cotta SSA and now Panna Cotta (concentrate) or am i looking at wrong page. Really when it comes down to it people are going to add flavors on ELR how they see fit since it open unlike ATF so who cares. Moving this thread to a naming convention thread
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