I recently started combining FLV Cupcake Batter with Purilum Yellow Cake. I haven’t nailed down my preferred ratio yet, but it’s delightful. I didn’t think I’d ever be happy with another cake flavor other than FW’s one.
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oooooo good idea… I’ll get some Purilium Yellow Cake and give it a shot. Purilium gets an A+ in my experience so far, so I’m curious what I’ll think about their Yellow Cake.
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I wonder if we need to start a new thread. Alternates to “Bad” Flavors. Hell there’s probably one on here already 
But @woftam post here makes me think it would be a good topic of conversation. I’m like him…not so concerned with the whole diketone thing. At this point that subject has been covered to death. Rather I think the combination of his bringing awareness to the fructose flavors and providing alternates for those would be a great idea. Just don’t volunteer me for it. I’ve had very few FW flavors so I’m not the guy for making substitution suggestions.
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I’m not worried about diketones either… Potential caramelization happening in my lungs is a different story though. I think we can all agree that can’t be good. But yeah, flavor alternatives would be a good idea as its own thread.
I’m not convinced sugar being in flavorings would even make them better in the context of vaping anyway. The sense that’s triggered from vaping mainly comes from smell, but sugar is something that needs to be tasted to be appreciated fullly, right? I could be way off base, or completely wrong, but I would bet that if we were to try one of those FW flavorings with no sugar we might not even notice a difference in flavor.
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Completely agree.
/general commentary
Personally, sugars don’t really bother me much. But then, I’m not a high wattage/high temp vaper (generally a max of 44w/420-40F), and in addition I change my cotton/dry burn once then change coils, frequently. I do so primarily because of what I’ve read about things potentially occurring certain Temps, and when/how coil buildup (gunk) can contribute to that.
This is my general thought process and approach to mitigate certain aspects, so I can enjoy 99.9% of flavors without any fear looming in the recesses of my mind.
I can completely understand and appreciate others having different sets of issues to bear in mind, given their possibly substantially different parameters in vaping style.
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Because most things that end with “-ose” are syrups: maltose, dextrose, sucralose, fructose…
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But not sugar, right?!
I think that I get your point, but it is all except sucralose which is listed as Artificial Sweetener.
I didn’t now that sugar is the general world for all of this sweeteners. I thought sugar referend to the ‘‘table sugar’’ (sucrose) only. At least when the discussion comes to vape and problems of vaping sugar. So next question is, Fructose which is a sugar, is it also bad to vape as is the Sucrose?
Probable is better if a moderator can split the conversation for sugars to a new topic? @woftam @Alisa @Ken_O_Where
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You’re chasing a ghost when you look to popular opinion IMO. Given that the science behind vaping is at best in it’s infancy, you honestly need to consider how you feel about it, given the research that you do. Because only you can choose whether or not you feel it’s relevant, and whether or not you have confidence in, those performing the tests. JMHO, and YMMV.
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I just read Jennifer’s article and I find it very good. Thanks for sharing!
TPA has a few too. I archived AB’s site awhile back just in case it disappeared.
https://wayback.archive.org/web/20160912113723/http://juic.org:80/flavors/concerning-flavors/
Corn Syrup:
- TFA Caramel Original
- TFA DX Caramel Original
- TFA Graham Cracker (not clear)
Sugar Syrup (CAS 57-48-7):
- FW Acai Berry (20-30%)
- FW Banana Nut Bread (1-10%)
- FW Banana Split (1-10%)
- FW Bananas Foster (15-25%)
- FW Biscotti (20-30%)
- FW Blackberry Mojito (15-25%)
- FW Boom (10-20%)
- FW Cinnamon Churro (20-30%)
- FW Cloud 9 (10-20%)
- FW Coffee (25-35%)
- FW Coffee Cream (25-35%)
- FW Dragon Fruit (25-35%)
- FW Fruity Flakes (10-20%)
- FW Goji Berry (20-30%)
- FW Green Apple Natural (15-25%)
- FW Gummy Bear (20-30%)
- FW Hawaiian Limeade (5-10%)
- FW Jack Fruit (20-30%)
- FW Key Lime Natural (10-20%)
- FW Kiwi Natural (20-30%)
- FW Lemon Meringue Pie (10-20%)
- FW Macadamia Nut (5-15%)
- FW Madagascar Vanilla (10-20%)
- FW Merlot (15-25%)
- FW Mojito (15-25%)
- FW Moose Milk (10-20%)
- FW Pomberry (10-20%)
- FW Pomegranate (10-20%)
- FW Prickly Pear (10-20%)
- FW Rainbow Lined Gum (15-25%)
- FW Rainbow Sherbet (10-20%)
- FW Raspberry Natural (1-10%)
- FW Red White Blue (20-30%)
- FW Rocky Road (25-35%)
- FW Star Fruit (20-30%)
- FW Sweet Tarts (20-30%)
- FW Tiki Roar (10-20%)
- FW Tres Leches (10-20%)
- FW Tropical Punch (20-30%)
- FW Watermelon Natural (10-20%)
- FW Yumberry (10-20%)
Fructose (Fruit Sugar, CAS 57-48-7):
- FW Cake Batter Dip (10-15%)
- FW Coconut Cream Pie (15-25%)
- FW Ginger Ale (20-30%)
- FW Strawberry Shortcake (10-20%)
- FW Yellow Cake (20-30%)
Molasses (CAS 8052-35-5)
- FW Dutch Apple Pie (1-5%)
Sucralose (Splenda, CAS 56038-13-2)
- FW Grape Soda (30-40%)
Salt (CAS 7647-14-5)
- FW Cookie Butter
Peanut Essence:
May not mean allergen-causing
- FW Monkey Fart (<1%)
- FW Peanut Butter Cup (<1%)
- FW Peanut Butter (<1%)
- FW Snicker Type (1-10%)
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Ah awesome mate - I should have done the same would have saved me some time 
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Thanks for the work, I appreciate it.
TPA Caramel (Original) Does not contain any syrup.
This is also stated on ELR what is it with all this copy-paste?
When i saw people say the same thing on ELR i went and looked it up myself.
You guys sure it isn’t TPA Caramel Flavor you are referring to?
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Things may have changed since this list was compiled since it is possibly a little out of date
https://wayback.archive.org/web/20160912113723/http://juic.org:80/flavors/concerning-flavors/
however there are still a heap of vendors that have corn syrup listed as an ingredient to both TFA Caramel Original and TFA DX Caramel Original including nic river and bcf.
I can assure you that the fw details are correct as i checked the sds sheets on all of them
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I’m wondering why TPA Graham Cracker (not clear) is listed and TPA Caramel Flavor is not?
This article is from 2016, and he states it is information he has gathered (on forums like this) so if anyone of us could give a definitive solid answer that would probably be more accurate.
I’m eating pizza with one hand and typing with the other so it goes extremely slowly. Lol
And i thought the DX version of flavors were supposed to not have any of the bad stuff in them, so if they contain syrup what’s the point?