Flavours Containing Sugar

I’m not worried about diketones either… Potential caramelization happening in my lungs is a different story though. I think we can all agree that can’t be good. But yeah, flavor alternatives would be a good idea as its own thread.

I’m not convinced sugar being in flavorings would even make them better in the context of vaping anyway. The sense that’s triggered from vaping mainly comes from smell, but sugar is something that needs to be tasted to be appreciated fullly, right? I could be way off base, or completely wrong, but I would bet that if we were to try one of those FW flavorings with no sugar we might not even notice a difference in flavor.

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Completely agree.

/general commentary

Personally, sugars don’t really bother me much. But then, I’m not a high wattage/high temp vaper (generally a max of 44w/420-40F), and in addition I change my cotton/dry burn once then change coils, frequently. I do so primarily because of what I’ve read about things potentially occurring certain Temps, and when/how coil buildup (gunk) can contribute to that.

This is my general thought process and approach to mitigate certain aspects, so I can enjoy 99.9% of flavors without any fear looming in the recesses of my mind.

I can completely understand and appreciate others having different sets of issues to bear in mind, given their possibly substantially different parameters in vaping style.

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It is fructose with CAS 57-48-7 here
Don’t know why they call it sugar syrup :confused:

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Because most things that end with “-ose” are syrups: maltose, dextrose, sucralose, fructose…

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:slightly_smiling_face: But not sugar, right?!

All of the ones I listed are sugars.

Either “base” sugars, or “modified” sugars.

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I think that I get your point, but it is all except sucralose which is listed as Artificial Sweetener.
I didn’t now that sugar is the general world for all of this sweeteners. I thought sugar referend to the ‘‘table sugar’’ (sucrose) only. At least when the discussion comes to vape and problems of vaping sugar. So next question is, Fructose which is a sugar, is it also bad to vape as is the Sucrose?

Probable is better if a moderator can split the conversation for sugars to a new topic? @woftam @Alisa @Ken_O_Where

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You’re chasing a ghost when you look to popular opinion IMO. Given that the science behind vaping is at best in it’s infancy, you honestly need to consider how you feel about it, given the research that you do. Because only you can choose whether or not you feel it’s relevant, and whether or not you have confidence in, those performing the tests. JMHO, and YMMV.

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I just read Jennifer’s article and I find it very good. Thanks for sharing!

TPA has a few too. I archived AB’s site awhile back just in case it disappeared.

https://wayback.archive.org/web/20160912113723/http://juic.org:80/flavors/concerning-flavors/

Corn Syrup:

  • TFA Caramel Original
  • TFA DX Caramel Original
  • TFA Graham Cracker (not clear)

Sugar Syrup (CAS 57-48-7):

  • FW Acai Berry (20-30%)
  • FW Banana Nut Bread (1-10%)
  • FW Banana Split (1-10%)
  • FW Bananas Foster (15-25%)
  • FW Biscotti (20-30%)
  • FW Blackberry Mojito (15-25%)
  • FW Boom (10-20%)
  • FW Cinnamon Churro (20-30%)
  • FW Cloud 9 (10-20%)
  • FW Coffee (25-35%)
  • FW Coffee Cream (25-35%)
  • FW Dragon Fruit (25-35%)
  • FW Fruity Flakes (10-20%)
  • FW Goji Berry (20-30%)
  • FW Green Apple Natural (15-25%)
  • FW Gummy Bear (20-30%)
  • FW Hawaiian Limeade (5-10%)
  • FW Jack Fruit (20-30%)
  • FW Key Lime Natural (10-20%)
  • FW Kiwi Natural (20-30%)
  • FW Lemon Meringue Pie (10-20%)
  • FW Macadamia Nut (5-15%)
  • FW Madagascar Vanilla (10-20%)
  • FW Merlot (15-25%)
  • FW Mojito (15-25%)
  • FW Moose Milk (10-20%)
  • FW Pomberry (10-20%)
  • FW Pomegranate (10-20%)
  • FW Prickly Pear (10-20%)
  • FW Rainbow Lined Gum (15-25%)
  • FW Rainbow Sherbet (10-20%)
  • FW Raspberry Natural (1-10%)
  • FW Red White Blue (20-30%)
  • FW Rocky Road (25-35%)
  • FW Star Fruit (20-30%)
  • FW Sweet Tarts (20-30%)
  • FW Tiki Roar (10-20%)
  • FW Tres Leches (10-20%)
  • FW Tropical Punch (20-30%)
  • FW Watermelon Natural (10-20%)
  • FW Yumberry (10-20%)

Fructose (Fruit Sugar, CAS 57-48-7):

  • FW Cake Batter Dip (10-15%)
  • FW Coconut Cream Pie (15-25%)
  • FW Ginger Ale (20-30%)
  • FW Strawberry Shortcake (10-20%)
  • FW Yellow Cake (20-30%)

Molasses (CAS 8052-35-5)

  • FW Dutch Apple Pie (1-5%)

Sucralose (Splenda, CAS 56038-13-2)

  • FW Grape Soda (30-40%)

Salt (CAS 7647-14-5)

  • FW Cookie Butter

Peanut Essence:
May not mean allergen-causing

  • FW Monkey Fart (<1%)
  • FW Peanut Butter Cup (<1%)
  • FW Peanut Butter (<1%)
  • FW Snicker Type (1-10%)
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Ah awesome mate - I should have done the same would have saved me some time :grinning:

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Awesome info. Thanks @woftam

Thanks for the work, I appreciate it.

TPA Caramel (Original) Does not contain any syrup.

This is also stated on ELR what is it with all this copy-paste?
When i saw people say the same thing on ELR i went and looked it up myself.
You guys sure it isn’t TPA Caramel Flavor you are referring to?

TPA Caramel (Original) Ingredients List

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Things may have changed since this list was compiled since it is possibly a little out of date

https://wayback.archive.org/web/20160912113723/http://juic.org:80/flavors/concerning-flavors/

however there are still a heap of vendors that have corn syrup listed as an ingredient to both TFA Caramel Original and TFA DX Caramel Original including nic river and bcf.

I can assure you that the fw details are correct as i checked the sds sheets on all of them

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I’m wondering why TPA Graham Cracker (not clear) is listed and TPA Caramel Flavor is not?
This article is from 2016, and he states it is information he has gathered (on forums like this) so if anyone of us could give a definitive solid answer that would probably be more accurate.

I’m eating pizza with one hand and typing with the other so it goes extremely slowly. Lol

And i thought the DX version of flavors were supposed to not have any of the bad stuff in them, so if they contain syrup what’s the point?

I am honestly not sure about it, but i think that the DX lineup is supposed to be diketone free, which still leaves a lot of bad things that could be added.

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I moved the posts over here since it is more relevant

I am not sure but i would suggest that the caramel original (&dx) was the version before the caramel. Vendors selling caramel state:

Concentrated Caramel flavoring by The Flavor Apprentice. Caramel concentrated flavoring is FDA approved for use in food, beverages, and products for human consumption.

Ingredients: Natural & Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Triacetin.

where on the caramel original it says

Concentrated Caramel Original flavoring by The Flavor Apprentice. Caramel Original concentrated flavoring is FDA approved for use in food, beverages, and products for human consumption.

Ingredients: Nat. & Art. Flavors, PG, Water, Corn Syrup, Caramel Color

How accurate the information is I don’t know - I would be happy to change those 3 to ‘MAY’ contain since the information available to us is contradictory.

I can’t prove anything right now while eating pizza.
But i’m 99% sure TPA Caramel Candy/Original is a-okay to vape with a tiny bit caramel coloring and TPA Caramel Flavoring is no good to vape.