Just to chime in, I’m still having the same conversation with people now that we were having 4 or 5 years ago about the GC, I to this day do not mix without it, it works, not completely, but it shaves the steep time in half, usually more, but 90% of the people that I have these conversations with are stubborn beyond comprehension about time being the only true steeper, there’s some truth to it, but I’d rather wait a week for a vapeable custard than a month, fruits take a day.
Hi BTW…it’s been a minute 
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Pumpkin 
great to see you jump in…Yes , Same conversation over and over but now there is the Never steep believers. Nothing needs to steep its a myth smh
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Should I ask now about cotton ,!!!
Homogenisation works it has to the only other taste is oxadised Nic
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Hey! nice to hear from you and I hope all is well. Glad to hear that the GC is still put to good use.
Those (many) that own these give high marks and those that don’t…don’t. 
This thread came about after reading how so many new users try multiple methods and fail so I thought I’d attempt to explain the physical aspects of how and why mechanical force can dramatically reduce time factors and produce a stable finished mix.
Sometimes I wish I could publish a list of all the top notch mixers around the world using the GC. Of course I would never do that. However, there is and always has been a way to prove what is actually taking place. That is with the use of high tech analysis. But even then, those tests and equipment’s are utterly useless unless a homogeneous sample is tested. It is also very expensive.
Anyway thanks for chiming in.
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methinks I see a ghost…
Hiya Pugs!
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Hey bud, good to see you again!
And i agree, it most certainly works. I had a Banana Silver (MF) SF tester that was about two months old. When i received the GC i mixed a new batch at the same % and then ran the GC through it. Very impressed with the results, very impressed. For this SF test is knocked appx 3 weeks off the curing time.
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Yes it works. I have yet to have an owner tell me it doesn’t. There is a slight learning curve with how long and how fast to run one and what volume it will pull through it. The “shear” effect works primarily to reduce the particle size of the VG globules and use mechanical forces inside the stator tube to combine them with the flavor concentrate. All mixing occurs within the tiny mix chamber of the rotor/stator. Thus, the high speeds applied. Those that claim this is some kind of stirring device are 100% incorrect. It does what a stirrer can not.
I distinctly recall conversations 4 or 5 years ago with Pugs and several others who stated their belief that high shear mixing devices, aka homogenizers, would soon become the norm rather than some “new” method or device.Two points:
(a) I stated clearly that it was not necessary to have one to make good ejuice which obviously it is not. People have limited budgets, myself included.
(b) The high shear process is decades old and used literally across all industries and processing businesses. Homogenization is essential for laboratory, pharmaceutical, and life science testing. Same for foods, beverages, cosmetics, chemicals etc etc. The list would fill pages.
Where I have ruffled feathers are with my positions on using heat, leaving nicotine out of the mix, and particularly my assertion that mixing flavors and/or aromas with glycerine’s is not unique to vaping. It is extremely common and high shear mixers the most common way to do it.
Glad to hear it’s working for you.
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I have the small one. Up to what size bottle can i use this with? I guess it would more accurately be volume?
Indeed it is working, Walters Youtube vids certainly helped as has the information here on the forums. We are quite lucky to have the person who created it here with us.
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I have been wondering how leaving nic out of the homogenization effects the results and steeped taste. Depending on the batch size that could be several ml of pg vg not being homogenized. Wouldnt that then negate from what we are trying to do. A solution would to use pure nic but most people are using 100mg/ml nic
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I have read somewhere its good to around 150 to 200ml . I have the small as well but havent mixed anything bigger then 120
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I thought that i had read or watched a video saying that as well, thanks bud.
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I dint see why it cant really do more then that if you just run it for longer and move it around
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For best results I’d stay around 150 though STR8 is correct that you can move it around. One member has tried to use the small for a 300 ml mix recently and really its too much. Mixing two 150 ml batches and dumping them together would be best with very little extra time.
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Thank you. I hadn’t really planned on using it in anything larger than 60ml but like i said in the PM i like to have all the available info about things im passionate about.
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Vg contains oxygen so I never homogenize or heat nicotine with it to avoid oxidation. With PG, it and the flavor materials are sub micron size so there is little to no effect. Vg is dense, heavy, and thick so the globule size reduction is with it. (2 microns or so)
I cool down, add nic, and then run a 5 minute cycle in an ultrasonic cleaner which will disperse and also remove the gas bubbles.
Here is a quote I have used quite a bit in the past:
"We all take extreme measures to keep our nic in freezers and some even use argon to keep oxygen away from it to prevent oxidation. I’ve quoted Flavorah so many times its committed to memory though I was saying this long before they did publicly:
Flavorah’s recipe book informs:\
“much of what has become known as the “steeping” process by ejuice
makers is actually accelerated oxidation of the flavorings caused by the addition of freebase nicotine……If nicotine is not added, this
undesirable oxidation does not occur and the initial flavoring
profile of the recipe will be maintained more consistently over time.”
[/quote]
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I mix mostly 60 ml batches myself. Occasionally 120. I have a 20 mm that I use for over 120. There are pics in the mixing equipment for sale thread. I let the big dog eat. I was mixing for several people but stopped and mainly just mix for my wife and I and a couple others.
I mix 55 mls in Boston Rounds to avoid overflowing when homogenizing. 28 for 30ml bottle, 55 for 60, and 110 for 120.
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Yes but the nicbase i been using is 50pg/50vg so that vg isnt being homogenized
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And its O3 if i remember right? One of the more powerful oxidizing agents.
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What mg are you mixing with? I haven’t tried the 50/50 but doubt that it will make any significant difference. It should bond like the rest since its combined with pg.
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50/50 100mg
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