How do I stop the anger, I am feeling

My pharmacists are production workers. Akin to McDonnalds. They get the right pills in the right bottles and get the count correct and move to the next order to fill. A cashier runs the register and enters new orders into the system. Corporate dispensary.

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Good for him!

I have a colleague who started vaping, she’s 50, and it wasn’t 2 months and she was diagnosed with lung cancer, luckily it was treatable. I am also sure she knew that something was going on, hence quitting smoking and trying vaping.

What did the doctor / lung / cancer specialist tell her? “Vaping causes water in the lungs.”

Oh my
 Idiots grow on trees, medical and rocket science degrees or not.

Well good for her, she did a cold turkey on both, and she’s in remission for now. Strong girl.

I just wish these doctors can think a bit about what they are telling their patients. Sure we need more studies, sure there are flavours that could be harmful, sure there are allergies to certain parts (I for one can’t use PG over 20%), but do they kill in the same way as a cigarette? Is it not as safe as aspirin you get over the counter? Are we going to ban peanuts because there are cases of people having severe reactions to it?

I guess we have to look at the health industry, and what vaping does to it. Less sick people means less medicine and less medical attention would be required. So I am not sure they are doing it consciously, but they are protecting their profession.

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I go to the Pain Clinic every 2 weeks. I get what I call my “Christmas Tree” of injections for my back. There is much more but the point is, they were thrilled that I quit smoking and started to vape. Their only concern was the safety aspect as everyone gets to hear about the accidents with batteries. My blood pressure was perfect last time I was in. I basically taught them all the differences between smoking and vaping. Cigarettes are all about Burning a product. With vaping, the last thing you want to do is “burn” something. Teach the difference when you can. Education is the only way we learn. Peace out.

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I’m right there with ya on the Pain Doc and the myriad of cervical and lumbar spinal injections
 and I was already a vaper for a number of years before I started with my current doc 3 years ago, but he and his whole office staff are fascinated, and regularly ask me for questions and referrals for their die-hard smoker patients. I think its like anything else
you’ll always have people who are open to new concepts and ideas, and truly want to move things in a positive direction, and on flip side, you’ve got (usually a much larger percentage) of people who are fear-mongers and totally threatened by anything that could mean real change. And personally, I truly do believe at highest levels there is a concerted effort to demonize vaping because of the very real impact on recurring medical costs and big tobacco. This damn world seems to be run by the lobby dollar, these days
 and sadly, big pharma and big tobacco are the worst of the lot, and they are what we have to contend with.

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Hi @Terry_Gupton,
Just wanted to say G’day and welcome you here thank you for posting and I hope your well thanks.

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Hi @Krayfish404, well saidđŸ‘đŸ» I just wanted to welcome you and thank you for posting take care ay!

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Hi @Saul1, well done on the FB work, Thanks for posting and welcome take care.:+1:t2:

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First post ever, There are plans to be put forth by the NHS to help smokers quit by giving them an coupon allowance to spend on monthly e-liquid. If the NHS is advocating vaping over smoking as its widely accepted that its less dangerous then your pharmacist is simply an a*s hole

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Hi @OddModicum, thanks for posting that YT vid some really good info in there, a good down to earth open doctor. Thank you.

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Did you take down this FB page ?
I can’t find it, thru link or otherwise.

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https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=welplex%20new%20%20zealand&epa=SEARCH_BOX

Still there, just search welplex New Zealand

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I have searched it from all angles I know,
this is what I get from the link you have :

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Greetings and Welcome to mix.
Yes, the Royal something or other for Mid Wives in Britain just came out in favour of vaping over smoking. They would prefer a woman vape over cigarettes totally.
My best explanation for people is:
It’s just like your electric clothes dryer. The heater removes the moisture from the clothing (mostly cotton) and exhausts it outsides. Remind them that your clothes dryer doesn’t burn anything.
Again, welcome .

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As a newbie, I missed your reply. Duh.
Thanks for talking back. When people ask me about vaping I explain it like this:
Think of your electric clothes dryer. The moisture is being pulled out of your cotton jeans through a heater and exhausted outside as moisture. The only difference is we pull the vapour VS a motor pushing it. A clothes dryer never burns anything.
I find this helps to explain and educate people on the beauty of vaping.

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@Bruce8 Your ‘clothes dryer’ explanation is brilliant in its simplicity.

@HouseofPain I’ll definitely check out that video
 and is it just me, or does that 60 Mins chick bear a serious resemblance to Olivia Newton John? lol

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