We’re talking about a country that insists that mechanical devices are labeled as having nicotine. They’re so far removed from logic and rationality to be absurd. Yet, we keep thinking that they’ll come to their senses. That makes us the idiots in the equation.
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Couldn’t say it better
The budget of the big tobacco is higher than the budget of most countries around the world. We shouldn’t expect logic, rationale or even health will play any significant role here (as long as we select our representatives like we do; based on the values we ‘believe’ are more important to us). They own ‘our’ representatives and they own us (because we don’t give a shit about that).
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I want to rip out my hair and run screaming in the streets everytime I hear that and yet it’s true. The insanity of it all. I just want one politician to say to me, look we’re making too much money on tobacco, sick people and pharma so we’re not going to honor your wishes. I’d rather the scums be honest. That I can handle. Wouldn’t like it but I can handle the truth.
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All politicians lie like knaves, they take us for idiots … And they have some reason …
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Yeah, I get that but surely they know we’re not all idiots.
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Well, after a bit of a wait and an expectation of having my purchase denied (CC payment via Paypal at FT) I had no issues - received my items this week in two parcels both listed on customs dec. as “filters”.
Maybe PP is location specific?
I have no clue 
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I’ll post it here, since it’s PayPal related (like all the above is).
Chefs Flavours - PayPal removed
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Signed and paid 1x contribution.
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I haven’t tried to use Google pay yet, has anyone tried that route? If we could use gp it would be a sweet run around that would still let us use pp.
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I’m trying to phase out google as much as I can so I certainly won’t go that route.
I rather vape straight VG with nicotine.
Nicotine I still have and VG is used for so many other things it will be available no matter what.
Screw google and all the rest of them 
Sorry girl, I still love ya 
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If Google gets me what I need or want I’m fine with it. There isn’t much more ethical behaviors on the net as there is in politics. Something to be said for “better the enemy you’re familiar with”…
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Have you guys heard of klarna?
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It’s way better than PayPal and Google pay
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Yep I know of it. Websites will have to have that option though and a lot of them don’t 
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But klarna visa card is free of charge, and can be used in any site
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I actually use it myself,
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I have no visa card, I’m more interested in their afterpay.
I have plenty of stock though, by the time I start running out there are probably a lot more options available 
It’s an excellent alternative though that will be useful to a lot of people.
Thanks 
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FWIW, I made a purchase from Fasttech in December and had to go through the route of purchasing a Fasttech gift card and using that to pay. However, I just made three purchases right before Chinese New Year from Fasttech and was able to pay using CC (Fasttech processes all their CC payments through Paypal).
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did you get your stuff yet ? probably not. please let us know how long it takes.
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The stuff that I ordered in December I got at the beginning of January, just under 4 weeks. One order that I placed right before Chinese New Year, according to the USPS tracking, has arrived in the US and (based on previous experience) I should receive it by this time next week. Fasttech shipped that order right before they shut down for Chinese New Year. One order that I placed a few days ago just shipped yesterday right after Fasttech reopened after the holiday. The third order isn’t scheduled to ship until the beginning of March, as the items won’t be in stock until then.
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