Been playing with different coil ideas lately. Not reinventing the wheel, I hope. I prefer SS coils both for DNA Replay and the way they act on a mech mod. But I get terrible life out of them compared to Ni80 coils of the same specs.
So… I’ve been wanting to try a coil with SS cores and Ni80 winding to see if the surface will hold up longer. I can’t find any spooled wire in that configuration to save my life so I just bought some wire, rigged up a swivel, and spun some of my own. DIY FTW.
First length was a 3x28SS + 38 Ni80. Decided to make it an alien because, why not. Couple little bumbles with the final wrap but still enough good wire for 3 coils. Not terrible for a first attempt.
Next up, quad 30’s.
Time will tell if it makes a difference in coil life.
That’s excellent for a first coil, ide be proud of that. I’ve been thinking of trying it for a while. Watched u tube videos so just need to get some supplies and make a coil winding setup and have a few practice runs.
Go for it. I think there’s this perception that it’s a bit of a dark art. There’s certainly a “feel” component to it but once everything is set up it’s not bad at all. The clapton practically winds itself. My alien de-core was supposed to be clapton practice but I got 20 flawless inches so I guess I’ll “practice” an alien. Wrapping the de-core was a little more tricky, but only because the window for correct tension and position is so much tighter. I didn’t stretch my de-core quite enough and I think that’ll make a big difference.
But yeah, this first coil was my practice. Send it.
Thank you, im inspired to give it a go.
Nice, great job! I admire anyone that spins their own coils, that’s one rabbit hole I’m not going down myself. I do use combo Ni80/Ni90 coils that I have custom made, so I guess they could be called hybrid?
That’s an incredible first attempt, congrats!
When you say terrible life, how long are they usually lasting you?
3-4 re-wicks before they just lose integrity and won’t get clean anymore.
Ni80 just seems to hold up much better to rinsing and dry burning. I’ve got Ni80 coils that are pushing 6 months of use that look like SS after a single re-wick.
Combo, hybrid, not sure what to call them. There’s probably a good reason I haven’t seen mixed material coils but I haven’t read or seen it so I’m going to have to find out myself. There’s not really enough electro potential dissimilarity with SS/Ni80 to get corrosion issues, and the different heat flux capacities is the point of the experiment. So who knows.
I haven’t really explored Ni90 at all. What’s the advantage or difficulty of that over Ni80?
SS always looks like that dull grey after a cleaning. Both coils I’m using are each well over a year old and doing great.
Your hybrid coil will work well in both TC or Replay. That outer wrap is heated from the core wires.
I thought Ni80 didnt work in TC?
The wrap has minimal effect on resistance. As long as the core is TC compatible it’ll work
Good to know. Might have a little experiment myself, I’ve got some nsk 4 core Clapton wire just sitting there and a couple of various ss316 gauges
I like the quick ramp-up time of Ni90 coils, Ni90 has exceptionally low electrical resistance and are dubbed “cloud comp” (cloud competition) coils because they heat up significantly faster than standard wire types. This rapid ramp-up time maximizes vapor production instantly, these were popular in mech mods back in the cloud comp days but I like the Ni80/Ni90 combo in my Voltrove RTA
Hmm, interesting…
I like SS because of the lower resistance and I get a bit of a “boost” effect on a mech. A brief punch at the start of the hit before it heats up and increases resistance.
I might have to pick up some Ni90 to play around with. I’ve got a couple big Voltroves with beefy coils that might benefit.
I might have some all Ni90 3 core SFC’s somewhere, if I find them I’ll send you some to try out
Hell yeah, right on Rocky. Although, before you do, let me try making some…
Ok, 2 core SFCs. 28SS + 38Ni80. Not terrible, but I was damn near cross-eyed by the time I finished.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK17oXHsfagTaDkGnRz_Ul01tYaCYtwdr
I’ve just watched this guy on u tube. He’s a really good teacher and shows you step by step. He says what you have made above is one of the most difficult and it looks like you’ve done it perfectly. I’m impressed.
The whole freehand thing is old school and next level frustration. Idk how those guys pulled that off without throwing everything through a wall.
I can’t be arsed with all the hot glue and masking tape shenanigans for what amounts to 1-2 coils worth of wire. Give one end a twist in the swivel. Clamp a bend in the other end in the drill chuck and go.
Getting the spacing wire in place tested my eyesight and dexterity. I had a chip clip with grooves that worked to hold everything in place. Once it’s there it just walks itself down the wire.
Tying the two together is slow going and also tests the eyesight.
I suspect the advantages to stags are found as the core count goes up, so I’ll probably give some triples or quads a try, but the 2 cores haven’t been much different from regular fused wire. Sure look cool tho
OMG @Rocky02852. I made some 4 cores. FML, it’s too much. If I run these on the regular I need to crank my flavor percentages and nic levels down. It’s overwhelming. I also don’t know if I have time to make these, I have children. It was painfully slow trying to keep 4 cores flat. I have yet to find the trick for that.
4x30SS + 40Ni80 SFC
