i have a situation that confused the hell out of me
I started vaping which leaded me to quit cigarettes and shisha, bought some Eliquids then i found that i can make my own E juice, my problem is that whatever recipe i make it always week on the flavour side, i tried many recipes that was recommended by +500 person, and it is still weak.
i bought my flavours from https://www.chefsflavours.co.uk/ and got a bottle of PG
i bought a bottle of VG from a local shop that sells VG for bakery
my Ejuice is weak and has that cough medicine if i vape it for a while, i made a max VG juice and it still have that weird taste
my questions is that:
is it possible that my VG is killing the flavours?
does some kinds of VG have that weird taste?
many recommended recipes have Dragonfruit (TPA) this flavour is strong and taste weird as hell i cant vape it at all and it leaves this taste in my mouth that doesnt go, is something wrong with my patch ??
@Ali13 Beware, Iām a beginner too so itās the blind leading the blind!
Yes. I find too much VG mutes flavours badly; doesnāt kill them outright just makes them less defined and much less enjoyable. 60pg/40vg is my preference. Any more vg and the taste is like laundry and sickly also. Any more pg and I get vaperās tongue. (Others report taste of old socks. Nice! )
Yes and no. I dripped pure vg from three manufacturers; Boots, Lubrisolve and one Iāve forgotten. All three were the same. Sickly, flowery laundry. Yuck! The thing is, for me, they were all the same not one particular brand. The trick for me is adding enough % flavour to just overcome the laundry without getting an overdose āchemicalā taste from the concentrates which is where steeping plays a part also.
Patch? Assume palate? If so, no, nothing wrong. I have real sensitivity/aversion to some flavours/chemicals and just learn to avoid them.
Chefs sell loads of flavours, some are very weak some take your head off. I taste 1 drop at a time mixed in 10ml of water to get a rough idea, although this doesnāt always translate to what youād taste in a vape.
Suggest white bread to cleanse your palate, otherwise menthol or tea. There was a finished juice from Vampire Vape (in UK) called āWinter Nipsā - that used to take a scrubbing brush to my palate.
Good luck.
@Grubby - Lubrisolve - Ā£18 for 5L each PG/VG. Pretty good deal.
thank you very much
im not in UK but i can buy from anywhere if they ship internationally
im into every thing actually i love tobacco caramel, fruits, fruity deserts, you can say i can vape everything as long it doesnt have dragonfruit ( i love the real fruit but this flavour is not even close to the real deal) 1% can ruin a whole combination of flavours IMO of course
if its a fruit juice i steep it 3 days
tobacco 1~2 weeks
deserts 7~10 days
Iām a noob but i think i have read and watched every single thing i found about mixing and steeping
i dont use nicotine at the moment in my mixes im trying to reach the real deal then i will start mixing nicotine (i tried once but it was a fail i think i bought a bad nicotine
My first advice is to cut your VG with 5% Distilled Water and 1% Vodka to break down the VG. When you add your flavors to a broken down VG they will permeate the VG faster. (The alcohol in there helps more than you know)
Donāt try to vape it for at least 3 days. Once you mix put the lid on loose so the gasses from mixing can escape overnight.
If a flavor taste funny to you, throw it out, you donāt want to vape anything that makes you not like vaping or you could end up back on those ā¦ (you know whats)
VG is reported to not be as good of a flavor carrier as PG. If youāre just coming off retail juice Iād suggest adding a sucralose based sweetener (if the recipe doesnāt already call for one). Most retail juices are pretty strong and overly sweetened. Sweetener seems to be the top missing ingredient when people say their juices are lacking something. Over time as your sense of taste comes back and you mix more you will likely find you donāt need as much (or any) sweetener.
How long have you been vaping and not smoking? Smoking kills your sense of smell and taste and that can have a huge effect on how you taste what you vape. Smell is a large part of taste and that goes double for vaping since we arenāt really ātastingā anything.
Thereās a list of vendors at http://e-liquid-recipes.com/resources#shops and Iām sure wherever youāre located someone around here can make suggestions about where to get what you need.
What methodology are you using to mix? Weight/drops/column?
As for dragon fruit tpa. Hmmm yeah 14%. That would kill me. But I typicallly mix dragon fruit to change up a watermellon or strawberry at 0.5% to 2%.
As for the top recipies. Most donāt work for me. I find many over flavored it have weird after taste when mixing with all cap/tpa. My preferance is more towards the FA/inw side.
ā¦that saidā¦maybe start simple to learn your flavors. Pick 1 fruit, 1 cream, and a dash of marshmallow. You may be happier. Then when the one fruit hits one note and you want a second add only one more fruitā¦then see how they play.
OMG i really hoped you reply to this, thank you
i havent been smoking for over a year after smoking for 13 years
i have tried mixing at 60/40 same issue (funny weird after taste)
chefs flavours ships internationally for lowest cost i found
i think im gonna try their VG
and im gonna order LB nicotine which will cost me $50 for shipping only
i hope i dont regret the choice of making my own juice
You wont regret it, you just have to be patient with the process. Before you spend the money on any flavors make sure you are buying them for existing recipes at first. Thenā¦ once you get the hang of it, get more creative.
Well, to your pointā¦ my personal journey was very frustrating. Liquid you buy from vendors ānowā is cheaper than it was when I started vaping 4-5 years ago. If you were using a sub ohm tank 10-15 ml might not get you through 2 days and that was a lot more than cost than smoking. Now you can get liquid cheaper, in some cases Iām seeing itās 1/2 to 1/3 the old cost of buying liquid depending on where you get it.
I wont lie, you do have to commit to this process and be ready for some failures.
dude if i lived in USA or EU i wont be talking about prices but in my country premium juices are sold for double the price because it is illegal to vape or sell vape products, im paying for shipping only double or triple the price of the flavours im buying, for example i want to buy nicotine 100mg/ml from LB which will cost me $15 for the 125ml bottle but i have to pay $52 for shipping
Iāve got a question. In calculation on e liquid with a juiceā¦Of a concentrate said VG on it does that need to be accounted for when I add the flavor in the calculation?
I sped read this so if I missed somethingā¦ @Ali13 if you recently quit smoking you may have problems tasting anything. It can be a mistake to boost flavor %s so you can taste. Some flavors at higher %s can also numb your taster. I believe that when you can juuust taste something yummy is when you want more. In your face flavors build to a lack of desire. It is possible to get bad VG/PG/flavorings, but isolated single product testing is quick and easyā¦ if in doubt re-order from another Vendor and compare before tossing in the trash or asking for a replacement.
If the concentrate is vg based then when you enter the flavour over on the recipe side, check the box for vg (thereās the option to pick pg/vg/other)
Thank you Lolly. And so that will change my original VG or PG amount? Like I already put in the recipe and saved it so when I got my order in I would be good to goā¦So what your saying is if the flavor is pg or VG based I should go back and recalculate before I mix?
