Oh that was great fun. One of my favorite Stone’s songs. I was doubly impressed with the little fella on drums. Steady Eddy. So important to keeping a band coherent. How old is that little guy anyway?
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I have no idea, but I guess no older than 11. I’ve watched a few of their videos and it always makes me smile to see their enthusiasm and love for music.
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They are decent and Slash is a good guitarist. He still does his thing and is on many an alblum. He was brilliant that night. I was but a lad at the time and really didn’t know much about much (still don’t). I was mostly talking about how bad of a vocalist I thought Axle Rose was. I don’t know if he just couldn’t hear himself or if he was high or both or neither.
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Brilliant! Thanks for the share man. I love a loving family.
ya, I was thinking the same thing. It all falls apart without timing. They have a video (Our 100th Song Backstage Pass) where he is teaching the children the song and he is a good teacher. Anyway, I like the channel.
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A closer look would be too much perhaps, as you would be analyzing initial valances of both flavoring-and-flavoring and flavorings-to-VG/PG, and right there is the “too much/many”. I think it’s enough to appreciate that the shearing force is enough to get everything “closer” for what ever reactions finally take place. Your homogenizer process just boosts the rate reaction …even the heating of the VG is a proven Rate Reaction booster. A good experiment could be just mixing your old-fashioned way (no GC) with just hot VG. Of course this flies in the face of years of ELR “Don’t Heat your juice” advice.
Vaping juices from the GC from the get-go, for me, still shows some steeping changes, but I’m mixing all-at-once (no One Shots or flavor “bases”). In terms of what’s Chemistry and what’s Bonding (to carriers VG/PG), the success of “One Shots” perhaps leads one to believe the Chemistry happening in the flavoring are the source of the steeping changes I observed, and Bonding happens more (quickly) with the Carriers from shearing forces. In my anecdotal opinion. (heh IMAO)
Also above advice to making your own One Shot bases, sounds the smartest for instant (or one day) results. But I have to mix a bunch of juice this AM (typical) and making big batches of Recipes-as-base consumes a lot of extracts …plus requires forethought and planning 
I have to add that I have not made any juice (Creams and Bakery) that were not immediately vapable.
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Would love to explore or observe you explore this more deeply if that is possible. I can definitely attest to what I call a settling period, up to eight hours but further sitting does not produce change at least within the confines of what I make and my ability to perceive flavor
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I’m pressed for time today (this month!) as I am one of Santa’s Workshop Elves. Most of the recipes I mix are one-month steepers, and I’m really enjoying my GC results. While I am seeing changes over a week or so, I am not experiencing the harsh dryness of the long steeping Custards even from the first day. They are however changing in top-note, mid-note, bottom-finish layers. One recipe is Strawberry-based where the common complaint was fading (strawberry in general) and in this case it strengthened over a weeks time. I mixed “Go To Vanilla” which was a very “Vanilla” juice. I liked it fresh, but it very much toned down over a week, but in a perfect way …good recipe BTW …I’m vaping it right now.
A question I am unsure of it how much time works best. I am just doing a visual check and not actually clocking my GC time. Definition of Rate Reaction being time/temp/pressure
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No rush, I hope to still be around after hoho season. Top note and or harshness is where I notice substantial change during settling.
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Once again our thinking parallels. I will try to take some photos which gives a good visual depiction. Putting everything in the bottle or flask and heating shows the separation between dilutants and flavor materials. Heat, then take a strong flashlight and look.Then lightly shake and have a look. The separation shows up clearly. Then cool down and again with the flashlight the separation is still noticeable but not to the degree as with the heated mix. So to me this shows both the benefits from the combination of heat and mechanical forces (multiple) which go hand in hand.
Phil Fish developed a heat, shake, repeat method that cut his final “maturity” time way down but took hours of heat, shake, repeat which grew old pretty quickly. Nevertheless he used the flashlight examination to gauge when no separation was visible.
I have thought about buying a viscosity gauge (expensive) to track the changes of VG at different temps. I always f go back to @Fishaddict420 review when he narrowed the question to the simple does it work? He did uncover a harshness with FLV Rich Cinnamon that took a day to smooth out. As he says, a day is a lot better than a month. With others he vaped them immediately. I bought it and tested and it is one of the very few concentrates where I have noticed the “settling time.” I have not detected any changes beyond that day or so time.
But this leads squrely back to the covalent (because it is not ionic [metalic] ) molecular bonding. Each of our concentrates have their own formulas. So long way around the barn IMO your observations are correct. The combined mechanical forces along with heating only facilitates the chemical bonding but does not cause it. IMO this is separate. Even if I was a chemist, which I am not, I would have to know the exact formulation and reactant properties of the formula to assign any “rule.” I’ve always instead said that I will rely on the chemist/flavorist to provide me with what works.
On the time factor running longer has no effect after it reaches the maximum shear effect but it won’t hurt anything either. Maybe try a minute or two with a 120 ml mix.
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Got a bottle warmer today on sale that I had my eye on for $AUD35. I added 100ml of VG to the baby bottle. Then added 50ml of water to the steamer. It heated the VG from 21C to 60.5C in 3.5 minutes. That is about 70F to 141F.
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Bad ass …Love that its compact and works fast …
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Nice pick-up @lukeloop.
Wish these had been around when the kids were little all those years ago…
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Here is a 5minute video of the Nuk Epress heating 100ml of VG using 50ml of water.
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Wow.
I’m happy you got the results you were hoping for… But I’m genuinely blown away that it would actually allow it to get that hot!
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The instructions say to add 12ml of water or so for a bottle of milk. I was worried it would cut out at a particular temperature but it doesn’t. It is flexible for the user. It is good that I can add the 50ml of water, do my other things and know it will be ready in 5 minutes.
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Is that hot enough for you then? I like to get mine above 150 F (65C) but is me and I am curious.
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I can put another 5 or 6 ml in and it will take it past 70C
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Woot! My GC is scheduled to arrive on Tue the 29th. I better get my heating plate. I really want everything I need in the same room. I’m getting the new parent nervous jitters. Will I do something wrong and break the baby?
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Just don’t “spike the football” after you see how amazing it is.
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Go slow and make sure it’s put together properly. Start it at the slowest speed and make sure it’s spinning by looking at the tip of it. I learned this by not having it properly seated…you’ll see what I mean when you get it.
Also, when I use it I don’t want to take it apart between mixes so I run it under cold water, just on the part that was in the mix, and it works fine. I’m no longer anal about stuff like this. 
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