Hey all. Been here for a bit lurking and reading. Hopefully this is the right place to post. Thought it was time to introduce myself.
Quit smoking about 7 tears ago, was a pack a day smoker, and ended with pack a day+ cigar smoking. Decided to buy a truck and quit smoking to afford the truck. Enter…vaping. Didn’t want to quit but vaping was cheaper and better for me(and more enjoyable).
Now, with the prices going up in Canada vaping with flavors is getting quite expensive. So…just started getting into diy. Have bought some flavors to get going and looking forward to learning more. While I wait for the other flavors to come, I did try my own recipe using the calculator here. That has been steeping for a week now.
Hopefully I can ask some questions about that sometime. Looking forward to learning more about things as I go and learning from those in the know.
Don’t be afraid to ask a question no matter how simple you think it is. Someone here will be able to answer.
Since you are new to DIY may I make a suggestion. Go to the recipes side and search for recipes that fit you’re taste. Pick out three or four you are interested in. Only buy flavors for those recipes. Mix those recipes and see if you like them. Buy those flavors in 10ml quantities till you find something you like. You can go to bigger bottles once you find recipes you favor. Follow the mixer’s who’s recipes you like. They will most likely have the same tastes as you.
Welcome to ELR.
Thanks for the input. I have been going through the recipes slowly. Have found a few recipes
I like and have ordered based on those. They are all 10ml so far.
In the interim of waiting for those flavors to arrive, I just thought I’d try my own(10ml recipe).
So I guess my question would be flavors. If there is one flavor standing out(don’t think my recipe is fully steeped as it is only a week, so need to wait it out some), would you decrease the stronger flavor or increase the weaker ones?
Thank you, appreciated. Was originally thinking to old to learn, but seems to be fairly straightforward when following a recipe. Would love to also do my own.
Firstly, everyones tastes are different, so if I whip up a BAD ASS recipe, SD, or anyone else may not think so, or maybe tweak a thing or two so that the flavor profile hits their pallette they way they like- and that is obviously OKAY!!
To answer your question tho… When I am "experimenting’ whit a recipe, I wait until I feel like the steep is done, or nearly done- and test 1 tank at a time.
After say a month “If im building a bakery type recipe” than I know what needs to change. The steep adds so many different levels to the final product.
Since we probably don’t have the same tastes I can’t answer that question fairly but you are hitting on the true reason of DIY. You can personally adjust a recipe to your liking. Generally though you’ll adjust to highlight your top note. IE: I vape bakeries. Do I accentuate the Cake layer or the nut or fruits and creams? The recipe can have the same flavors in it and have a totally different taste depending on percentages.
Look at the recipes you picked out. Ask why the writers used that percentage with that flavor and the other percentage of flavors in the mix. It won’t take long before you will begin to taste the mix in your head. Can you change it to better fit your tastes.
@Oldguynew2diy it really depends on a couple of things. What flavors you’re using, and what overall profile you want. Assuming you DON’T want the one flavor to stand out, from a purist’s point of view, it’s better to reduce, than to pump the other flavors up. I mean you can, BUT, sometimes, less is more, and by pumping the other flavors trying to compensate, you can run into more issues, possible over-flavoring, and/or a muddled mess. Doesn’t mean pumping the others wont work, but reducing the single loud flavor can work better.
Welcome @Oldguynew2diy, fellow here. More than a handful of us, and at least 3 of us in Ontario.
You’ll do yourself a great favor by following this guide on how to populate your flavor stash. You should not need to enter anything new. This will help with features like ‘what can i make’ and give you a rough starting % during recipe creation.
Tell us a bit about your setup (pod/mod, watts, rda, rta, tank) and juice (fruits, candy, bakery, tobacco) types.
I’m going to add you to small private Canadian chat (which you can leave if you’re not interested)
Welcome @Oldguynew2diy. Reading your questions I can tell you you’ve come to the right place as there’s many very helpful and knowledgeable people here who are more than willing to help. Just want to say good luck and enjoy the process.
The recipe I’m woking on has been steeping now a week. I do know with the nicotine and the bakery it needs to steep longer. Just me taking notes and samples to see how it is doing. Recipe is Cream Brulee, Blood Orange and Brandy with a sweetener, using the calculator here and the suggested amounts. I usually have a good sense of flavors and what I feel will taste good together.
Was just wondering if a flavor stands out and others not so much is it better to increase tge weak or decrease the strong.
Keep in mind that alot of oranges fade so if you lose orange flavor you may need to add or use another to help it hold up.
Your question though is a tough one to answer. Its not always just a matter of increasing or decreaing a flavor.
This doesnt always work . Since the calculator is using the median pct used for the single flavor . You need to know is the creme brulee your base , accent or top note. You should know what each flavor is being used for . So alot of times if your using the brandy as an accent the median may be too high for its role in the recipe. Knowing this stuff just takes time but also testing and knowing your flavors will help you know what pct you can use them at.
You should be able to know after a week what need adjustments.
The orange will steep much faster than the creams. I wouldn’t consider tweaking before 4-6 weeks. Brands also make a big difference, FA blood orange is very different from FW blood orange or any other brand of blood orange.
It’s a journey. Also helps when posting a recipe add brand and percentage used for each flavor. Sweeteners also changes the recipe; most of my early juices were flat until I broke down and started using sweeteners. So enjoy the journey and don’t throw any mixes away if you’re not enjoying it, 3-6 months can magically change some mixes into something spectacular!