Looking for help recreating the old BAT Vype Blended Tobacco / Cirro Regular Tobacco

Hi everyone,

I’m hoping someone with experience in flavour concentrates can help identify or recreate a discontinued e-liquid.

For many years I exclusively used Vype eTank Blended Tobacco (British American Tobacco). When it was discontinued, I spent months trying replacements until I eventually found Cirro Regular Tobacco (the later BAT/10 Motives version made in Poland around 2021–2025). To me, the two liquids were virtually identical.

Unfortunately Cirro has now also been discontinued, and after trying dozens of commercial tobacco liquids I still haven’t found anything close.

I’ve already tried:

  • Halo Tribeca
  • Original C Regular Tobacco
  • Hangsen Virginia
  • VS Fifty 50 Caramel Tobacco
  • Various RY4 blends

They all have far too much tobacco flavour.

The flavour I’m trying to recreate is best described as:

  • 50VG / 50PG
  • 18mg freebase nicotine
  • Extremely mild and smooth
  • Almost neutral
  • Barely any tobacco flavour
  • No smoky, earthy, woody or nutty notes
  • Just the faintest buttery caramel/vanilla finish (similar to the subtle aftertaste of a Werther’s Original)
  • More like an unflavoured nicotine base with a tiny amount of flavour than a traditional tobacco e-liquid

If you removed the slight buttery/caramel finish, it would almost taste like an unflavoured base.

Does this flavour profile remind anyone of a particular concentrate or recipe?

I’m happy to mix my own liquid and would really appreciate any suggestions for concentrates and starting percentages.

Thank you!

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