Made a Mix at 10% flavor that tastes the same as 20%?

Pretty new to DIY. I had made 10mls of a Looper clone from a recipe that used 20% flavoring, tasted great to me. It was time to mix up some more but I decided to make 20mls this time. I added my base mix to the bottle then proceeded to follow the same recipe. Gave it a short Ultrasonic bath and it came out smelling and tasting great so I patted myself on the back for getting another good result. It was only then that I realized that I didn’t adjust my flavor to the volume and the final result was only 10% flavoring. So of course my question is why does the 10% mix taste as good/strong as the mix at 20%?

TLDR; Why did my mix at 10% flavor taste the same as when it was mixed at 20%?

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I suppose this would be an example of the less is more principle. Flavours do not always improve by higher percentages, sometimes they even get muted when too high. Some taste awful and others just taste the same. Count your blessings, you’ll be saving some more money this way. :grinning:

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The optimal way of making a recipe is nailing the flavors (ratios), then making a flavor base and figure out how low you can go on flavor percentage before the flavor is affected :slight_smile:

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Daath and Josephine hit the main points. The last part is shake’n’vape verses time. Sure the ultrasonic bath speeds things up. But be sure to test the actual time factor. How does it taste after sitting in the bottle 3 weeks from now. Ideally it should be fine…but there is a slight chance at the 3-5 week mark ( or more) the flavor may not be as strong…still there but not as good. That may tell you to try going from 10 to 12% or 14% for the next test.

The variables are endless. But I mix/plan based on time for my personal needs. I vape everything at a 2-5 week rotation. Some of my mixes were great in the first week but not as nice at week 5. So adjustments need to be made.

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When all else fails, add Marshmallow :innocent:

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I like Marshmallow… :smirk:

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Thanks… So as I see it the general rule of thumb here would be to start with the lower percent. If the mix is too weak when fresh I can add more flavoring right away, as in your example upping it to 12%, then 14%, etc. If it seems good at the lower percent when fresh, give it time to see if the flavor holds up.

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I found this out as well when I first started mixing.A popular juice maker is Five Pawns and one of their mixes is called Castle Long.You will see several clones on ELR as well as other places.I have used ones ranging from 10% total flavoring up to 22%. IMO , the 10% one has the most flavor detail and unlike the 22% mix the flavors don’t seem to mute over time.
I make this in a 480ml bottle and the 10% is way better IMO from start to finish.

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There are two parts. 1. It is much easier to add a touch of flavoring to a bottle then to dilute by adding more of/vg. 2. Repeatable results. Test your recipies. some are lucky they can mix everyday. Many can only mix on the weekend or every other weekend. Regardless you should test at the beginning middle and end of your planned shelf life.

With testing at different times it teaches you the addition info. Like how flavors Change over time. Obaoba is a fun one. So is oakwood FA. You get one flavor profile in the first few days and after that you get slight changes at the 1week mark.

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