I had a weird sore throat when i fist started diy. I let it go for about 2 months thinking it would clear up.It finally cleared up when i switched my nic out for some that was decidedly fresher.
Turned out my first batch of nic was off, smelled like old, dry fish! How’s yours smell?
Also, I’d recommend drinking a ton of water on top of what you think you need. When you start making your own liquid, you might be vaping a lot more than before, and both vg and pg can dry your thoat. We can get dehydrated pretty quickly.
Hm. Mine smells just a tad peppery. And yeah, I am vaping more than I was. I started on 6 mg and did that for a year. had some pretty bad panic attacks and so this new batch is 3 mgs.
I believe it should be almost odorless if it’s fresh. Peppery is a sign of oxidation, but just a tad peppery should be acceptable. Hopefully someone else can help more.
Somehow the correlation seems to be between the two offending juices being really freshly made. But then there are a bunch of Shake and Vape stuff everywhere - So apparently that can be done without throat irritation issues.
When I quit smoking (even before vaping but also when I started vaping), I started coughing and have throat aches. I don’t understand why but I’ve experienced it a few times and I’ve seen it in others too.
The last time I quit, thanks to vaping, I really had it worse when I started DIY. Everybody’s always talking about PG sensitivity so it’s easy to point a finger at it… but in fact, very few people actually do have a PG sensitivity. Anyways, I jumped on the wagon of Max VG, tried distilled water, vodka, etc, only to return to a 70VG mix, have it steep long enough and enjoy a smooth vape.
I can’t tell whether it’s this or that, but using the same ingredients, I no longer have a sore throat.
Ah… the only thing that I did do, was reduce my vaping. The more you vape, the easier it is to get irritation from it. At a certain moment in time, I was made aware by a number of people that I was constantly vaping, even more than when I was smoking (even though I had the same nicotine intake as with cigarettes). I nearly doubled the nic in my juice, from 3mg to 5mg, and the result is that I vape way less than before.
So if you’re getting irritation, perhaps it’s just your body adjusting to the new environment… I’d say limit your vaping so don’t go for a nic level that is too low for your addiction.
This is, of course, highly debatable! I was speaking in absolutes, which is often a good way to stick my foot in my mouth.
Here is a nice thread to accompany my declaration. Ultrasonic steeping.. Ok?
There is a complex chemical molecular thing happening during a steep that can’t be (just can’t be i tell ya! replicated in 4 hours.
I use 70/30 also. I would agree that I prolly vape too frequently and was getting a pounding heart. I looked into it, and apparently nic is a contributor to anxiety, so I went lower nic. I think tho, that with this weird throat feeling and shortness of breath, it has only occurred twice in a whole year, and really my habitual uses haven’t changed, or I would say that it’s from vaping too much.
Use a tank which gets partially refilled with juice (as opposed to being depleted before refill) ? Note that the PG content is being vaporized more than the VG content - requiring higher temps to produce (VG) vapor:
My personal approach is to maximize (base) Nicotine concentration (of which I am able to tolerate up to an ~18 mg/ml concentration without much irritation). I also find (in my own experience) that I am able to tolerate a multiplicative product of Power (in Watts) and the Nicotine concentration (in mg/ml) of up to ~120. I vape NETs mostly in a tank system at ~8 Watts, Nicotine equal to ~15 mg/ml. Nicotine flux (in vapor) is limited by temperature, as well as by the PG component present for vaporization. Nicotine is far less expensive than is lung disease. Restricting the coil/wick-interface temperatures also makes for longer lasting wicks and coils.
I vape at 65Watts. I really think it’s a matter of the juice being too fresh. I just put my juices in the USC for a couple hours, and I’ll see if that helps. It cant be the flavor because I’ve made this recipe before with no issue. Yesterday when I got home from work I put a juice from last batch and had some relief. I think that means its really the juice, not the environment, nor the hardware.
Well the first time a couple months ago was a store bought. Called Pear Haze which is a 60/40. Was first time having different than 70/30 so I thought was the ratio. but after it sat for a month while I used other juice, I tried it again with no problem. Was 6 mg. This time the juice is a week old 3mg caramel cheesecake flavor. I made this same recipe in 6mg a month ago with no issue - However I put that in the USC for 4 hours before vaping it, unlike this time. 30ml bottle with a few drops cheesecake graham crust, caramel, cream cheese icing, and sweetener. I don’t understand. was fine last time. I my have increased the caramel a little bit this time tho.
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Personally I agree steeping is the answer here. Might try experimenting with larger batches to avoid mixing as often to stay ahead. When I mix a larger batch I pull off 30ml since it will steep more quickly. That way you have some to tide you over.
I like a smooth juice without th; unfortunately I am a citrus junkie so if I’m not wanting a cream or meringue to smooth out the citrus a longer steep is the solution. Should add I particularly do not like fresh mixes. Another thing to consider is I don’t use additives like MTS wizard for example.
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