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Butterscotch (MF) 0.75% (9-23-18) – I have mixed with this a bit, but never tested it as a single flavor. My first reaction was this is a very clean butterscotch. Very natural tasting, nicely sweet with some of the subtle nuances of BS that many others miss. It was somewhat light @,75%, but still surprisingly full. Not sure how they got it this good with no dik’s, but it’s entirely possible some of the richness might have suffered because of this. Very clear, which is again, indicative of MF in general. My personal preference is for a slightly heavier, buttery-er BS, but surely one could easily tweak this clean BS into a richer one with ease. No complaints beyond the strength and richness, clean, accurate, and quite full even at less than 1%. 7.5/10 on this one.
One GREAT recipe that showcases what’s possible with this is from @Sprkslfly.
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I’m vaping an MF Butterscotch concoction as we speak, actually. Really good but you are right; one more Butterscotch paired with it sets it up quite nicely.
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Thank you @anon44944642 I’ve not tried multiple BS’s yet with the MF, which one or ones have worked out for you ?
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FW BS. But I’m not going to take credit because I didn’t toil much to find that out. That all goes to @Sprkslfly. He worked for untold months perfecting his, what I call, Butterscotch stone, and it is a combo of those two. And, when you mix in MF Caramel and FW Salted Caramel (or TFA Caramel Original, really) and a little Stevia stone, you get a knock-out creamy tank full of awesome.
I call it Scotchie because I’m not exactly a juice naming savant. It’s fantastic. Let it steep for a month and it won’t last a week after that.
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@anon44944642 you are right about that one, he turned me onto it, and it hit like a butterscotch brick !!!
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Dark Chocolate (MF) 0.5% (09-24-18) – I knew this one was going to be one of the Heavy Hitters from Medicine Flower, but held off on testing it, until now. Having mixed quite a bit of this up, was interested to see exactly HOW good it was, solo. Chocolate seems to be one of the hardest flavors to get right, but somehow (through their extraction process) MF has managed to absolutely capture the entire essence of a Dark Chocolate with this one, AND, it’s completely clear. Clear you say, sure, you have TPA DCC, and it’s pretty clear, but it can’t touch this one. I think it’s far to say when comparing the many chocolates I have, this one and TPA DCC are similar, but after that, they are not in the same league. This one is a delightfully (yes I said that) Dark Chocolate, with NO off putting notes. No need to tweak, add to it, push or pull it, right out of the bottle delicious, full, sweet enough, creamy, and dark, RIGHT out of the bottle (after steeping) and even @ 0.5%. Wow, and more wow, doesn’t even come close. It is dense enough to be very full at this strength, with no overowering notes, nothing artificial, and does appear to be a fairly complex blend that most others cannot compete with. Dark almost implies it will be, well, dark, but it’s almost assumed it would be bitter, or maybe dry, but NOT with this one. Somehow they’ve come up with a just about perfect blend of darker chocolates, just the right amount of sweetness, but with plenty of “mid-body” that carries it through to a much fuller chocolate than just a “dark” chocolate. I’ve heard @Pro_Vapes rant and rave about tossing all of his chocolates after trying this one, and now I see why. If you are in the mood for a full, creamy, dark and full bodied chocolate, you cannot go wrong with this one. At some level, 10/10 doesn’t seem to come close, but it will have to do. On a side note, I cannot NOT post a shameless link to something Pro_Vapes came up with, that pulls this into a Milk Chocolate, as it is TOO good not to…
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I’m guessing this is “payback” for me getting you on board with MF butterscotch… 
I’m simply going to have to prioritize this and MF milk chocolate. And that’s all there is to it.
$50 for two flavors though just kills me. 
That’s practically a liter of nicotine FFS. lol
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LOL, YES @Sprkslfly. Sitting here vaping this while typing, whew, it’s a HELL of a ride in this tank. Now that I’m doing more testing with these MF’s (lol, no pun intended), AND, re-learning how to mix lower, and steep longer, and even finding a few that weren’t super duper, I’m already seeing what’s going on over at Camp MF. Powerful good stuff, AND, in the hands of a skilled mixer, QUITE a lethal vaping weapon !!!
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I think the thing that is/was/or has kept MF more on the sidelines (which has been repeated numerous times here) is you have to RE-think mixing, maybe not in total, but somewhat. Gotta mix much lower than normal (for me at least), and have to LET them steep (which I’m not good at). If you don’t do both, well, you’ll have marginal success for sure. I do have to RE-order another bottle of BS coming up here soon, as it is about empty @Sprkslfly
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Oh how well I know!
I just wish they (or someone) would take up selling the entire line in 5-7ml options is all.
Given how long they last, I have no need for more than that in a year (at least currently). And it’d be far less of an obstacle to come up with the scratch at one shot. 
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Man, I gotta say, I’m surprised someone HASN’T done that yet, would DEF. bring more people INTO the fold, get’m hooked, and keep’m coming back for more !!!
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@Sprkslfly I just had a thought, and time will tell if this was good OR not LOL. I’ve not only included @Pro_Vapes Milk Chocolate GMix as a good showcase for MF, but also your Butterscotch Bliss, as that too, is a great example of MF in a mix. I think I might start doing that (if I can) when reviewing flavors, as an added bonus, for anyone insane enough to read whatever I’ve written about a flavor.
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Actually, it was the insane MF %'s that made me rethink how I used all my concentrates. Many I’ve been able to significantly reduce, albeit nowhere near the stingy MF levels. It’s been a great thing for me.
And you’re not the only one Sparky lured with his Butterscotch Siren Song, you know. That’s how this whole MF’n thing started for me, too!
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one of my favorite caramels to mix with , i also like to use Loranns Butter rum as an additive to butterscotch @SessionDrummer
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This doesn’t count as tasting notes, but it is relevant to measuring out how much to dispense (for those who use syringes =P) so I figured I would drop this “nugget” of info here.
(Hope you don’t mind @Pro_Vapes)
I did some testing last night…and I’ll just post the update I left on my Butterscotch base and the Butterscotch Bliss recipe:
This is in reference to the 5ml glass with the plastic inserts.
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OK, guys. Please excuse me , but my present housing situation headache, etceteras (I won;t go into the etcetras but they’re biggies) has been such as to throw me off the wagon wince . Like I can afford the freaking stinkies wince,
Nevertheless , I did actually manage to taste my latest MF testers at the one month mark. I dunno if I’ll manage a two-month mark test, especially not after accidentally sending one open bottle flying to disgorge its contents onto a heap of papers (not vitally important papers, thankfully!) . But here goes:
Elderberry (MF)
I tested this @ 0.5% and 1%. Must say , I’ve never tasted fresh elderberries, just elderberry wine, but it definitely tastes a lot like the latter, especially @ 1% , though I do find that way too heavy on the flavour.
My son (who conrtributed part of the aforementioned etceteras, through no fault of his own) is still staying with me, so I turned to him for a second opinion, He completely agrees with me that this flavour really shines @0.5% ., at which concentration (with 1 month steep) you get a light, highly refreshing fruity taste…which my son mistakenly identified as elderflower flavoured grape juice. Huh? Hmmm. Perhaps that goes to show that there’s something of floral note in there? or that Elderberry and Elderflower are a lot more similar than I ever realised before. In any case, there’s a definite “elder” flavour, and both us found it delicious!
If you’re looking for a fruit flavour that’s really great as an SF, this could be the one you’re looking for! Ten out ten!
Honeydew Melon (MF)
Oh dear, oh dear! Previous reviews gave me high hopes of this one. But they also inspired me to try it at a lower concentation than the popular 1%, so as to add a little bit to our knowledge base. So I tried it @ 0.6% and 0.7% Yes, you read that right! those are stupidly close together, I know, I know, and I actually can’t tell the difference between them, now that I come to taste them. My intention was to try @ 0.5% and 0.7% but then I was a teeny bit clumsy with the dropper .
Anyway, so how do they taste at one month? Sort of vaguely fruity with an odd citrus tang and an unpleasant musty undertone. I mean, not only is it definitely too weak, but there’s no hint whatsoever of the delights that you get at 1% (yes I do believe you guys!) . Makes me wonder if I might have somehow contaminated both batches with some other flavour? * shrugs *
That said, I do believe this flavour is delicious at 1%. And my advice, on this showing, is to keep on mixing it @1% !
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I’ve only mixed honeydew in an actual recpie,
But all recpies where amaz’balls. Mixed between 0.6-1.25%
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think I’ve really gotta add this one, now:
Light Chocolate (MF)
OK , I haven;'t tried this as an SF; but -unusually- I’ve certainly got it, and have used it in mixes. I should also confess that I’m actually a dark chocolate fiend! so it’s no surprise that I don’t find this one as satifying as the Dark Chocalate (MF) . Though, really, could anything ever be quite as satisfying as that one? That just sets the bar too high.
So far as my taste buds can tell , it tastes exactly like milk chocolate. And not just any old milk chocolate but a high quality Swiss milk chocolate. .I prefer to use the Dark Chocolate (MF) at around 0.7%, so I tried using this one at a similar % , and was, I must confess, disappointed. The chocolate flavour comes out OK on the exhale, but you (or rather I) barely notice it on the inhale.
I turned to a mate for a second opinion and he really liked it, though he certainly agreed about the chocolate flavour being pretty much absent on the inhale. So there! You get two opinions for the price of one.
I haven’t tried Pro_Vapes’ famous Milk Chocolate Flavour Base, but only because I’m personally avoiding using TPA and CAP (mostly on account of PG-allergy) For those who don’t mind mixing their MF with those other brands, that seems like an excellent idea which perhaps makes Light Chocolate (MF) redundant? That said, it really is a nice one, just as you’d expect from MF.
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I can appreciate this, having not even tried the light chocolate yet.
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