Pro_Vapes: āThis all depends on the type of fruit and vendor IMO. If you know your flavors, then you should know how they react when mixed with certain flavors or enhancers. I really donāt think there is a solid rule on how to adjust a mix before you mix it without knowing your flavors.ā
So by this philosophy we should not experiment? Just curious.
And if you mix 2 recipes in one bottle, would it not just be one recipe?
Sounds right to me. Iām sure a world class chef can determine that his recipe would be better with two dashes of unobtainable juice, but Iām not a world class chef. Even then, both of us are experimenting. Make it, taste it, change it, taste it, and at some point say āgood enoughā.
This is something thatās learned overtime. You can test flavors individually, but for me, mixing certain flavors together may give a different flavor aspect from your single flavor mixā¦ such as flavor bases and stones.
I really canāt elaborate more here since I havenāt tried it. I can speculate, but I like replying from experience.
The question is will seperate steeps then mixed together yield a different result than if all ingredients were steeped in one bottle. Think dunkaroos. If i mix one bottle of the cookie, then seperate bottle for the icing then combine them after 4 weeks, would it differ from the mix where all ingredients were combined from the start?
Iām sorry I couldnāt resist posting this:
Philosophy (from Greek ĻĪ¹Ī»ĪæĻĪæĻĪÆĪ±, philosophia, literally ālove of wisdomā) is the study of general and fundamental problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.
My mixing philosophy is pretty simple. Since I started mixing (my reason was being a cheap ass and not wanting to give money to the guy down the street anymore) my values and mind became completely absorbed in learning as much as I could. It actually became quite all consuming for a while as I was looking for the āperfectā vape.
Though I have not tried this I think it would make a big difference, UNLESS, you re-steep the mix. When all flavors are together and steeping together then all flavors have a chance to meld. Mixing 2 pre-steeped flavors does not mean the 2 have melded. It would require more steeping thenā¦
Canāt believe no one mentioned this. If you are talking about single flavor blends fading in flavor then your problem could be the flavor itself. Most flavors contain Maltol, nearly the same thing as Ethyl Maltol. Both of these substances are known to fade flavors. Some flavors have entirely too much Maltol and this causes a problem. Now for your question, if you use too little, it will be weak but flavor should not fade because you used too little (UNLESS, SEE ABOVE), However, in a multi flavor mix it could be overpowered easily if too weak. Too much flavor, a lot of people think it is true that this fades flavors. I personally feels it kills your taste buds and mimics fading flavorā¦Look up Vapor Tongueā¦
No, if there is a flavor that is actually fading the mixās flavor, it will fade all the flavors in the mixā¦
I think a lot would depend on how much cream you use. Also some fruit flavors are stronger than others. Truth be told, those of us who have been blending for a while probably do use more fruit with creams. We just donāt pay too much attention to it and do it automaticallyā¦
This is sound advice and this statement can help you answer the fruit and creams question. When you know your flavors, your percentages of this and that become pretty much automaticā¦
Hope this helped a bitā¦
Yes it doesā¦ in my experienceā¦ especially with fruits and creamsā¦ I enjoy mixing StandAlones ā¦allowing them to steep, and then blending them togetherā¦ One example is a flavor that is a favorite of mine FA Forest Fruitā¦Mixed as a StandAlone, it steeps differently than if it is mixed with other Flavorsā¦ Say I do a mix of Forest Fruit with Cream Fresh in a bottle together and steepā¦ then do a mix of Forest Fruit on itsā own and a mix of Cream Fresh on itsā own and steep them separately and blend AFTER steepingā¦the flavor profiles of each vape are differentā¦I have found that I get a more pronounced Forest Fruit flavor with the mix that was made with the steeped StandAlone flavors that are combined afterwardsā¦and the CreamFresh that intermingles and compliments this mixā¦It makes (for me) a more complex vape than the mix that was steeped with both flavors togetherā¦The mix with the 2 flavors steeped together has a more homogenized and less dynamic flavor profileā¦not as much interesting going on with it as there is with the 2 flavors that were independently steeped, then blendedā¦Experimentation is the keyā¦and sometimes I just throw caution to the wind and play around with that idea that you mentionedā¦
So far (in my lowly year long+ journey) I can affirm this. I have toyed with this idea/approach a few times since it was last brought up (maybe 6-8 months ago). What I found was that mixing two fully steeped flavors into one container/sampling yielded a kind of āhot spotā situation.
What I mean by that is, youād get little ābright shining momentsā of a certain flavor taking the lead, and depending on how many flavors were mixed, they would āshineā at varying intervals.
For me, I have a single complex recipe from a friend, which I can replicate a similar experience by ramping the power up or down (different flavors shine through at different power settings). Although this is done using a single, fully homogenized liquid, where all flavors were added simultaneously.
The experience is similar, but notably different.
Agree, and it makes for a very interesting vapeā¦Very enjoyableā¦The cool thing with this kind of mixing is that I will mix a Cream flavor and let it steep for a week to 10 days BEFORE mixing my Fruitsā¦Mix my Fruit independentlyā¦then let them both steep (in their separate bottles) another 10 days or so (how ever long the fruit needs)ā¦then blend them togetherā¦thereby getting a mix with the Cream that has fully blossomed AND the Fruit which is reaching itsā primeā¦For me, it is just another fun exploration into something differentā¦ 
this is exactly what i find every time i mix 2 already steeped mixes ā¦ a very enjoyable and different result - iām vaping one of these mixes right now so wanted to come back and confirm this thought. i do think itās a thing we can exploit further - maybe the juice makers are already doing it in some premium juices.
in my mind, i keep relating this to cooking. iām trying to understand how VG - and the curing process - really works. if iām making (real) creamy vanilla custard with banana slices on top, i would start by preparing the custard. milk is the main ingredient (so like the VG in eliquid), I add the custard powder, sugar, maybe a hint of vanilla and apply heat and stirring - then cool the resulting product - thatās the base custard. then prepare whatever cream I decide to use - thatās again milk based - with a different ingredients, fast forward ā¦ i have my cream. add the cream on top of the v custard, then slice the banana and add on topā¦ this wonāt be the same product if i mix all the ingredients together and apply the heat and stirring in the beginningā¦ (canāt even imagine what i would end up with in that case 
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so for my brain, it makes a lot of sense that VG will combine differently in each mix with the different flavors added and with steeping/curing, then adding 2 or 3 of these mixes together, thereās a totally different end product.
you guys think am i correct in that analogy, or am i just over engineering (cooking) this
I think there is some truth to your analogy,I look at it in a little simpler way, I have separate bottles of āvape readyā steeped juice that can then be combinedā¦Since these will be vaped right after combining, the flavors mixed will not have a lot of time to meld together as one mixtureā¦ Ratherā¦ they will maintain more of their own flavor properties even in their combined stateā¦with a certain amount of blendingā¦but not to the extent of a mixture where all flavors are blended from the start, and then left to steep togetherā¦ So, the resultant vape will show more variety in taste notes as I increase or decrease my wattage during my vape sessionā¦and sometimes when I donāt change wattages during my vape session. And with some amount of combined flavor taste, as wellā¦and the variety is what makes the vape interesting for meā¦Also, as the blend does age, the taste will change as wellā¦ Sweet notesā¦Sour notesā¦Cream notesā¦Freshness and Blossom ā¦all popping up now and then etc They will all be dancing on the tongue at varying degrees and at varying timesā¦
I agree here. I feel that by steeping an E liquid the VG undergoes a level of saturation. The fully steeped E liquid is less likely to take on other aspects of another fully saturated E Liquid. I have even wondered if muting is a result of a super saturation of the liquid the same way seperation of the E liquid and concentrates can occur when you have used wayyy to much flavoring. Certain flavoring i have noticed become immiscible at to high of a %
All about right proportion. 60/40 is rare these days.
Most of these are 70VG. Iād suggest getting a good 50/50 custard flavor as your base and adding something like Granola Honey to it. Might work well. Also, I store my DIY e-liquid in nice plastic bottles, which provide safety and good storage abilities.
If you want the best protection for your flavoring, youāll switch to glass. Zero risk of plastic leeching into flavors and vice versa over long term storage.
Plastic is merely adequate IMO.
1 year of vaping and iām totally ok with plastic.
No problem 
If it makes you happy, then all is well! Wasnāt calling you out or anythingā¦
Itās just not advice I would recommend to new folks who plan on having a lot of flavors which seems to be occurring a bit more frequently as of late (watching the āorder threadsā; Good Deals, RF SC, vape mail).
If you only have 30-50 flavors, and/or use them frequently, then plastic will suffice for a few months.
But if you end up with 100 flavors (or more) then glass becomes important.
The strongest flavors Iāve had (TFA Kona coffee, any MF, etc) would only need a couple months tops before the plastic would be permeated with the scent of that flavor. At which point leeching has occurred.
It all depends on what youāre ordering, and how frequently you use it, but some (Kona coffee for example) require glass from day 1 IMO.
Best rule of thumb I would offer to someone new would be: If you use a flavor at 2% or less (single flavor) it should be in glass.
Pretty much as above. The only difference being certain plastics are more āresistantā than others. Hence the whole LDPEā¦ HDPEā¦ PETā¦ stuff you read about in varying forums/threads/articles.
To me, and while I fully understand and acknowledge the protection of varying types, theyāre all still ājust plasticā. Certain base traits just are inescapable in my opinion. Leeching is one. It only becomes a matter of WHEN it will occur.
With glass, you donāt risk leeching. So I adopted the outlook of āif I use it at 2% or lessā (as a standalone flavor) then āitās strong enough to warrant glassā.
To me, itās important enough to account for (kind of like diacetyl for some). To others, itās not. But with over 200 flavors and counting, itās like looking at money on the shelves. I want it to remain unaltered as long as possible!
Hi @Sprkslfly,
Thank you for your reply. I see. That makes sense. So all the flavors that Iāve purchased that are 4oz and up or flavors that Iām not using regularly,should be placed in glass to reduce leeching and to preserve the flavors. Noted